contd..

<The sad fact is that much of the "debate" about domestic violence is not a debate at all. It has descended into a 21st century morality play in which roles are assigned according to gender. Men can have only two roles in this play: they are either the brutish perpetrators of domestic violence, or the courageous men who care for women.

The voices that are drowned out are the men who are the victims of domestic violence - about one in three of all cases - and the children. Australian Institute of Criminology Statistics show that 45 per cent of children murdered by a parent are murdered by the mother, making this kind of domestic violence an equal opportunity killer....>
http://tinyurl.com/o3zt9vn

Others can discuss what drives the promulgation of sloppy and shonky, sometimes fraudulent research - I believe it is $$ - but surely the point is that the Australian public and the unfortunate victims of violence, DV in this case, are ALWAYS disadvantaged where policy is NOT based on solid evidence.

Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk is courageous to support male victims of domestic violence as being worthy of recognition and assistance.

The Premier's statesmanship and principles should also lead to some of the many honest researchers stepping forward to support her and to challenge the parlous state of research, of SCIENCE, in Australia and in other developed countries, where publication in journals and in media briefs from universities cannot be taken as any quality assurance at all.

There seems to be no end of sloppy science - which in the case of DV is made apparent by the cynicism of a populist PM who through his approval of the gendered view of DV, puts buying support from noisy lobbyists ahead of good policy.

@Suseonline,

It was explained during training that generally alcohol causes about 5 or 6 different reactions in different human beings.
1. Some people laugh and sing happily.
2. Some people fall asleep. (like Shadow Minister)
3. Some people feel sick and dizzy.
4. Some people become argumentative. (like Poirot. LOL)
5. Some people become become violent.
6. Some people become relaxed, quiet, contented. (like Suzeonline)

Bottom of economy poverty where I focus research has revealed increasing hardship in family life was driving a husband to go drinking, and when drunk that husband commits DV.

Worry about debt can lead to stress.
A definition of stress is when a person feels like they want to choke the living daylights out of their best friend or someone close.

Bad debt can cause DV. Maybe banks don't want to know.

On the other hand, perhaps banks could be persuaded to help find solutions, solutions such as properly resourced up-to-date education of bureaucrats and politicians and society in general.
Focus toward outcome should be development of employment and business and prosperity.

Then there might be more understanding and less hardship and less domestic violence.

@Suseonline,
Female mysoginists can have agenda to incriminate males.

Stating the obvious can be very negative toward sales and profit.

It's good this family on OLO can have a rational discussion. Without DV.

JF Aus, I am more like number 1 on your list actually : )

I don't know any female misogynists actually?

Of course I am aware that some women wrongly accuse some men of DV for their own purposes, and men do the same thing for the same reasons.
Nothing new there.

The fact remains that more women come off second best physically during domestic violence incidences than men do. That is just a fact.
There is nothing wrong with acknowledging where the biggest problem lies, while still acknowledging that it is not the only problem involved.

Suseonline,

I procrastinated a number of times as to whether or not to peg you as number one. I didn't want to indicate you become wild and noisy like in some of the Rage videos. LOL.

I agree there are more female than male victims, but murder is murder and dv is dv, no matter how many of different gender are injured or killed.

There is need for that holistic approach to solutions as ontb is stating.

<A dangerous "ingroup/outgroup" form of siege mentality has enveloped feminist activists and those
researchers who share their dogma. It is based on a perceived threat that somehow, services for women
will disappear if male victimization is recognized or that those who raise issues about female violence
or intervention are somehow against progressive goals for women's equality. That is not the case. We
neither wish, nor believe that protection for women would be diminished by the above suggestions;
simply that more effective intervention and treatment could be implemented if a more humanistic,
complex, and community mental health model were implemented...

There is not one solution for every domestically violent situation; some require incarceration of a "terrorist" perpetrator, others can be
dealt with through court-mandated treatment, still others may benefit from couples therapy. However,
feminist inspired "intervention" standards that preclude therapists in many states from doing effective
therapy with male batterers is one outcome of this paradigm. The failure to recognize female threat to
husbands, female partners, or children is another (Straus et al, 1980 found 10% higher rates of child
abuse reported by mothers than by fathers).

The "one size fits all" policy driven by a simplistic notion that intimate violence is a recapitulation of
class war does not effectively deal with this serious problem or represent the variety of spousal
violence patterns revealed by research.

At some point one has to ask whether feminists are more interested in diminishing violence within a population or promoting a political ideology. If they are
interested in diminishing violence, it should be diminished for all members of a population and by the
most effective and utilitarian means possible. This would mean an intervention/treatment approach
based on other successful approaches from criminology and psychology.>
[The Gender Paradigm In Domestic Violence: Research And Theory,
http://ncfm.org/libraryfiles/Children/DV/Gender%20Paradigm%20In%20Domestic%20Violence.pdf
tks to RObert]