runner,

I'm not going to sit here and waste posts on short 'n' sharp responses to a person on OLO who has never once fulfilled a request for evidence for any of their claims. Cough up now or I'll continue to ignore you and save my post count for people who at least attempt to respond adequately to what I say.

Incidentally, you don't know what the two schools of thought are that I've asked Is Mise about either, do you? No, you've just grown up believing the same old crap that ttbn has while serious theologians waste their entire lives trying to reconcile the irreconcilable problems I've raised within the schools of thought that you don't even know exist because you were taught something as a kid and that's all you really need to know, as far as you're concerned anyway.

In fact, I'm willing to bet that no-one here who has posted on this thread, and is so certain of the Bible's superiority over the Koran's, has the vaguest clue as to what the two school of thought are that I'm talking about (one breaks up into multiple schools of thought too, but we won't delve that far into the mess for now).

No, that's because we've all just comfortably cruised through our (essentially racist) lives believing that our (or the Jew's (who we like to claim as our own as a way of making up for the Holocaust - resulting in the meaningless term Judeo-Christian)) religion is the superior one.

Speaking of which, and for those who may be confused, 'Judeo-Christian' does not refer to a system of ethics based on the 'Golden Rule' (that has been around so for much longer than either religion). No, it was a term first used in the 1800s that was revived after the Holocaust to patch the horrific gap that the Holocaust had formed between Jews and Christians (or at least the Catholic christians) after the Christian support for the holocaust.

Toni Lavis,

I enjoyed to Narnia books as a child. C.S. Lewis has a lot of talent in the form of expression. But he was still an idiot. In fact, one thing that has permanently wrecked the Narnia books for me is that they were just re-writes of the Biblical stories with Aslan as Jesus. To that extent. the guy has little imagination.

Remember, too, that this was a guy who read the entire Bible with the intention of debunking it line by line and then ended up a Christian at the end of his journey.

Good writer or not, that's the mark of a complete idiot.

If it is not dispensing with the rules [of going off thread topic], runner it will be a covenant between the two of us, here is a suggestion to help you refute your claims of AJ Philips' delusions:

Watch this talk by Dr. Robert Price, pick any several of his claims and demonstrate how they are incorrect. As an ex-evangelical Christian and now mythicist his thoughts will address the 'Legend' question for your responses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NLXTGesqxA

I would have suggested any of the videos on Ken Humphreys' JesusNeverExistd channel which I find infinitely more entertaining but I don't know if your blood pressure could cope.

[Also look for an easter egg in this post to answer two schools of thought]

AJ Philips, there is nothing against you personally in my trying to help runner but, you are wrong... Aslan is a lion! I know that for a fact because I have seen the recent Chronicles of Narnia feature films. It is only coincidence they are a trilogy.

runner: a fraudster or He was who He said He was.

There is nowhere in the New Testament that Joshua ben Nasura/Miriam/Pentara (his real names) declares, "I am God, worship me." There are some cryptic saying attributed to Joshua by the writers of the Gospels from hearsay. None of the people who wrote the Gospels had even met him.

Christ, from the Greek, Christ = Lord. or Indo/Aryan Krishna = Lord.
Jesus, there is no J in Greek or Latin. From Hesus, a British Sun God. The Title "Jesus Christ" was suggested by Constantine at the first Nicene Conference.(born & raised in York)

AJ,

If you say so, but your knowledge is not apparent to me.

All,

Which Paul is being talked about. Not the Paul who started off as Saul of Tarsus? That's a name change to me

runner,

Yes, even a non-Biblical scholar like myself picked up the C.S. Lewis reference.

I always thought that phrase, although being a good one-liner, was pretty light on persuasive argument.

In my travels to understand why revered folk became believers, I read some of their writings thinking perhaps there's something I'm missing...but I never came across anything to persuade my mind to believe.

C.S. Lewis, after he undertook much delving, told the story of how he eventually became a Christian....

I thought, okay here goes something!....maybe this will give me a clue to the tectonic shift one undergoes when finally one's psyche capitulates and is able to jettison reason and believe the irrational.

Here's the gist of what he said:....One day he was going to the zoo. When he got on the bus for the journey, he wasn't a Christian believer - and when he got off the bus he was.

That's it. Now I realise it was part of a process, but in the end that was how he explained it.

Like G.K. Chesterton telling us that not realising that Christianity is true is a bit like walking around in the dark, coming upon a street lamp and not looking up to see from whence the light radiates.

Parables like that are all very nice, but certainly not powerful enough to convince someone like me.