Just wondering, all you tough guys, who would feed the children of these 'dole-bludgers' if we got tough (like real manly guy Morrison) and simply stopped their dole payments?

Also, where do you think these dole-less people would get money to live on?
I'm thinking they would wander around to all the working guy's houses and steal their belongings to sell and pay for their food/drugs/booze.
Or they may just go straight to violent robberies against people in the streets.

I am sure we could come up with a better plan of action than just cutting these people off? I like the idea of food vouchers or cards that can only buy groceries or other living essentials.
Of course, if they don't have some money for smokes or booze, then we are back to square one again....burglary.

Suze, it's not about no money, it's about how this 'tax payer gift' is distributed because as it stands, serial dole blugers kids are often missing out already, thanks to the fact that we pay them in cash. A restricted debit card woukd go a long way towards solving this.

Nobody should be cut off as such, unless of cause they are a single person living in a shack having no intention of finding or even looking fir a job. Feed them, dont reward them I say.

Baz, I'm no economist but nit do I rely on someone else taking a risk to provide me with a job. So I think differently to most.

The problem I see is that the US market has gone from 6000 points to some 18,000 in the space of seven years, and it's all been on the back of government stimulus and zero interest rates, in other words a false economy.

Every large economy seems to be behind the eight ball financially and the likes of ISIS are cleverly displacing millions of people who need finial support, and that finial support has to come from further borrowings, I call it the start of WW3 without a shot being fired.

Crippling a nation finavially would be far more effective than firing shots in my view and we are all out of cash but the do gooders can't see this. This being despite the fact that for decades now we have supported the uncontrolled breeding in third world nations with out feel good finacial aid and the generosity of many.

As I say, the only thing that prevented labor breaking us was the mining boom, as it fed their waste. But that's gone now so hold on to your hats people I say.

While we all love to be generous, the saying 'charity starts at home' will really sink in soon.

Rehctub, it will really get difficult when the choices are cut the
dole or cut the pensions or cut defense or cut aboriginal funds or
cut all of them as well as uni students.

As Barnaby Joyce said, manage your debt or your debt manages you.
We keep hearing the mantra that we do not have a debt problem.
With falling GDP where do we get the funds to start reducing the debt ?

Agriculture and selling food overseas is one way, but not if we sell
the farms to our overseas customers.
One opinion I read is that the agribusiness is the only viable business that we have.

Where are all of these supposed jobs, Turnbull and Shorten will fix your dreams. Abbott was never going to succeed.

Abbott’s idea was to incite riot, and terrorism, and you blokes learned pretty well. Where are all of these jobs you speak of, do they exist.

It’s no good putting up fictitious arguments, you need substance.
Morrison needs to talk sense instead of passing slogans, or he will be out. Isn’t he supposed to be treasurer. Where’s the minister for welfare.

When Turnbull gets his policy’s together we may see some action, guaranteed not like the Abbott and Hockey “ put everything on the workers” solution.

Bazz is having nightmares, banks, no dole no pension, where does he get this stuff, probably from Arjay.

Abbott’s 50 billion $ worth of cuts don’t kick in till 2016-17 so why the delay. Would he rather have it on someone else’s shift.

Nationalize all mining before any more profits are hidden overseas, would be a good start, and discontinue coal mining altogether, the world does not want that anymore.

Does anybody ever think of developing newly productive export industry with properly paid income for the employees and the nation?

If everyone received $100 or $200 per day take home pay there would virtually no people on the dole.
I think many dole recipients see they can have more staying at home on the dole than paying transport or parking fees and fines and tax from going to work.
Absolutely for many people there is no incentive to go to work.

I think the fundamental problem is that cash money is now too scarce in this day and age.
It's no longer possible to live eating rabbits and trading some for the next door neighbor's vegetables.
Cash money is now absolutely essential.

If you pay interest for finance then money is plentiful.
The scarcity of cash seems akin to government land not being released onto the market, forcing people to pay higher prices.
The cash shortage forces many many people into finance, more business for the finance industry.
Whole nations are having to pay for money to use. Money should be available, not restricted.

I think the best solution to shortage of money for consumers and also the solution to the shortage of money governments are faced with, is for productive policy to generate newly productive local and export industry and business and employment.

The dole was meant to be a short term safety net to help people while they were actively looking for work. Now it is being abused by successive generations of families who are using it as their only source of income from school leaving to the grave. Throw in low-rent public housing, child breeding money and other allowances, and it's not a bad lurk. In the meantime, people who do work are paying these bludgers with a good part of their taxes.

As for the 'no' jobs available' squawks, just listen for the complaints of business owners who can't get workers, even for above award wages and perks. We still import around 140,000 a year people as part of our normal immigration intake. Surely nobody believes that all these people, every year, go on the dole and stay on it? And, what about 457 visas. They would not be necessary if there weren't the jobs to fill. Backpackers find work easily. Why can't Australian dole recipients find the readily available casual work and still look for a full time job? No. There is no excuse for the abuse of welfare in Australia, and it's time politicians got serious about the problem.