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Scott Morrison, you are kidding arn't you!

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Rechtub,

Well come on. Tell us what Morrison should be doing that would please you. I would have thought that, when you start a thread, you would have had some opinions on your own OWN subject! You've had all day to think of something. Making distasteful remarks about Morrison's genitalia, which I'm absolutely sure you know nothing about, just doesn't cut the mustard, apart from lowering the tone of OLO. Tell us, why should Morrison not be encouraging people off the dole into work.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 1 October 2015 6:20:38 PM
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Doog,

I didn't hear the interview, but politicians can't always talk in slogans - they upset that brilliant public speaker, Bill Shorten. Now, Morrison might well be a waffler in his new job. But the last time I heard him interviewed on the 7.30 Report, he was very short, sharp and shiny when he said that we have a spending problem, not a revenue problem. Did you ever think that you would hear a treasurer saying that about his own government?

Turnbull is the real waffler, and he is also a hypocrite. Did you see the re-run of his blah when the Rudd/ Gillard business was in full swing? It's OK when he does it, though.
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 1 October 2015 6:38:48 PM
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ttbn,Unfortunately I have a job, so sorry if I can't respond as quickly as you woukd like.

getting them off the dole is not the problem, having to find ways to encourage them off is my beef.

Step one is to make the dole less desirable, you do this by taking away the cash as this will make recipients more egar to get a job.

Doog, there are jobs out there, but ozzies won't take them, or the unions won't let them because of what they call underpayment.

In desperate times a jobs a job and while I don't condone what 711 has done, the result will be a lot of students who find themselves in a strange country with no money.

The dole is a privilege, but remarks like that of Morrison just reinforce the fact that it's a way of life for some.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 1 October 2015 8:29:21 PM
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Rehctub,

Sorry. I often forget that everyone is not retired.

I totally agree that the dole should be made less desirable. But you said that: "he said we have to give people an incentive to get off welfare and into the work force".

Then you let fly at him. Isn't he going to do what you think he should (and I think should be done)? I think I can be forgiven for thinking that you were really angry with Morrison. Perhaps you left out some information about what he said? And given what has been going on up until now, Morrison might take a very hard line. After all, anything would be a hard line after what has been going on.
To recap, I agree with you 100%. And, maybe, Morrison would too.

I also agree with your response to doog. In Adelaide, most taxi drivers are Indian immigrants. Australians don't want to drive taxis. Young people seem to think that they are entitled to a job befitting their degree or whatever. They can't get a job they want, and they refuse to do anything else that seems to be below their qualifications. They are the ones who should be flicked off the dole and forced to take whatever jobs are available; and there are jobs perfectly adequate for providing board, clothing and the necessities of life untilsh something better comes along. When I was between jobs years ago, I shovelled out the contents of a sewerage pond, and collected rubbish bins for a while.

Again, sorry for my impatience. I really must try harder to curb it
Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 1 October 2015 9:03:30 PM
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The dole should be made MORE desirable - not less.

The correlation between the money one earns through formal employment and one's actual contribution to the well-being of others, is very weak.

Many paid-jobs today do more damage than good and the ones who earn more money, use it to consume more, take up more resources and produce more pollution.

Instead, those who are willing to live on the frugal income called "dole", should be considered as heroes for sacrificing their comfort and luxuries.

There are many ways to contribute to the overall happiness of others which do not and need not involve the formal act of exchanging money for goods and services.

Too many people waste too much time - theirs and others' in the procedural wasteland of Centerlink including the pretence to look for paid-work, preventing them from going out and doing good things for themselves, their families and their community.

There is no shortage of food in Australia, or clothing or even of adequate housing (away from big cities, where formal jobs are to be found), in fact there is so much wastage because most people are time-poor, so nothing would go wrong or missing if say 30%-40% of the population will go on the dole, especially those currently in the public-service who are paid at least 10 times over to harass us. Moving them to the dole would be a gain to the tax-payer, not a loss.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 2 October 2015 4:05:32 AM
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ttbn, the part that annoyed me was him saying "we have to give them incentives.....

No we don't, we need to force them out of their way of life. I'm not talking about genuine unemployed people who are actively seeking work, but, getting out of bed when you feel like it, or being drugged up are not examples of actively seeking work.

Apart from no cash, a mandatory drug and alcohol testing souls be mandatory for long term unemployed as they should present themselves as 'ready for work' at least five out of seven days a week.

We either use a big stick now, or a huge stick latter as passagers are no longer affordable.

Perhaps we need an immediate ban on 457's and a work for the dole for all the jobs they do including fruit picking.
Posted by rehctub, Friday, 2 October 2015 8:15:14 AM
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