Butch
Why react to Morrison’s waffle, as I said Morrison said nothing. You are only assuming what Morrison said.

You say there are jobs, but no one wants wants them, and unions won’t let them.

Underpaying people to work is not an option. No one wants them, well there is a case for it to be compulsory as a first stop to get workers, if there is jobs out there as you say.

What does Morrison mean by “incentive to get of the dole “ So what does he mean, he did not say how.

TTb Ok” we have a spending problem not a revenue problem” But when cross examines as to what to do about it he could not answer the question. And you say “ short sharp and shiny.” That is not an answer

Slavery is illegal. Even work for the dole is calculated at the going rate. What is the rate for fruit picking.

The only grapes that are picked by hand now are table grapes.
Oranges and other fruit’s are paid by the Bin .
Manual hand picking of vegetables and fruit is limited to what it was years ago.

Employers are shoving all the training onto govt; now, and then they want to be subsidized for taking them on. It’s easier to get someone on a 457 visa than to train anybody. Abbott’s FTA leaves the door wide open for Chinese workers to infiltrate Australia. SO there is quite a lot of tidying up to do, before any kind of blaming of anyone on the dole.

Unless we have investment the job situation is not going to change. Some investments of 60% of GDP was happening when Labor was in, since then it dwindled to just 16% no one was about to trust Abbott.

Investment will create jobs, so get on with it.

Business and consumer confidence took a dramatic turn for the better as soon as Turnbull took over, and that is what is needed. So now we need rational policies to back it up with and get this nation moving. Albeit with thousands and thousands of pending unemployed in the motor industries. So you have a hard deal blaming persons on the dole when unemployment is programmed into the system.

Coal is stuffed so forget it, the world does not want your dirty fuel any more. Solar, Wind and Wave power is the way of the future, and create tens of thousands of jobs. It will be interesting to see Morrison’s solution to dole recipients when he thinks of it of course, all we have at the moment is a "Heading " which can’t be explained.

Rechtub,

Yes, I'm all for the "big stick" method. Make that a baseball bat. There has been too much talk about "getting" people off the dole, and the bludgers know that it's not likely to happen. They should be PUT of the dole and PUT to work. In Singapore, nobody gets money for doing nothing; work is FOUND for people, and they are put to it. Little chance of that here with our new Left-wing PM, though.

No more 457 visas or immigration of any sort until all Australians who CAN work ARE working.

Doog,

You say that "they don't know what to do". OK, but it has only just been admitted by a brand new treasurer that they are spending too much of our money, and they need to be given some time to act. Mind you, I am as sceptical as you are that they WILL act. We have been conned to many times by politicians that we now have to see it before we believe it.

Empty words or slogans do not work, Abbott showed you how not to treat people. You must talk substance. So Morrison has an idea, but as yet we don’t know what it is. That is fantastic.

TTbn What does your big stick consist of.
This is Australia and not Singapore there is no comparison in the slightest.

We have a welfare system and we have pensions. We need both of those systems because the govt; does not provide free housing, free public transport, or free food, as some other countries do not have welfare or pensions they supply the lot, including paid employment in govt; owned businesses, for those that turn up, at a rate of 1.50 / day with no tax payable, your eldest daughter is responsible for their parents, grandparents and younger siblings welfare. That is why they have prostitution on mass.

This being Australia we do not have that option, so without workable policy you are stuck with the dole.

You are all talking of a "Business as Usual" environment.
It is not like that anymore. The problem is the politicians either do
not understand or deliberately don't want know what is going on.
What I am saying here is the world situation. Australia is on the
better side of the problem.

It has all changed, the world debt burden has become so great that the
interest charge on borrowing plus the rising cost of energy has eaten
all the GDP. The politicians and economists keep talking up growth.
However growth is declining everywhere.

This means governments are between a rock & a hard place.
They cannot increase handouts and they cannot increase tax.
In fact they are being forced into reducing handouts. This will be
a real wakeup call when the lenders of last resort refuse further loans.
We are all going to follow Greece, one or two at a time.

However there is a financial crisis on the way and when it comes we
will have no choice but to operate like Greece is currently adopting.
In Greece the barter trade with officially approved local currencies
are being used. A district has its own currency and you are given a
starting amount and you get paid for work that you do for someone
in the local money and you use it to buy your food in the town.

This is similar to the Totnes Pound in the UK.

Get rid of any debt you have as banks etc will be scrambling for
anything of value in lieu of payment.
We might have a year to get our house in order according to the
experts in this sort of thing. No one seems to know for sure as China
has complicated it all due to their shadow banking.

Another tip, do not have more than $250,000 in any bank.
The government guarentees that amount in any approved place.
Wespac and St George bank are considered one organisation so check
your building society etc.

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