Robert
I just wanted to say quickly the last warning comment at the end of that particluar post was in context to the whole message- [meant last warning before I go into Roberts thread and report a problem] [or complain to Graham or his staff.]
I am sure they have more to do.

PF Why dont you and I try to if not get along at least ignore each others posts.
I am thinking of the forum staff as well as myself and you.
Yes I make typing errors because I am very tired. I have other things to get done as well.Many other people make typing errors also.
I can only tell you one last time Wendy has not posted in a very very long time. Taryn has also stopped Benny as well.I know that is what you are suggesting.
. Nobody minds contructive comments of course.

I have no control over other organisations or people but I think you got a raw deal, and it was a missed oportunity for them as well.

please dont take that out on me

It is not one or even two but three Animal Welfare organisations now that have been upset.
enough is enough.
I sincerly wish you well in the future.
How about some peace for everybodys sake. Its almost Christmas so how about good will amongst all men month.

I thought your comments regarding pigs was fantasic and I hope perhaps Brian notices that. For all the animal welfare groups and organisations in the world the public would listen far more to a real farmers such as you.
In time i hope they will realise that.
I am sure they will. I cetainly am pushing for a face for Free Range. There are several others as well who like the idea. Children of course are the way to educate and look Mummy is farmer Browns Pork will work better in my mind than labels.

I really hope we can be adult enough to move on

Kind regards

Antje Struthmann

Antje

Firstly, isnt the idea of the carpark for two posters to discuss problems outside the thread. I dont believe it was meant as a place were we run to Robert and expect him to be mediator.

You are still accusing me of causing you trouble, defamation, etc etc which just isnt true. I have tried hard not to retaliate to some of your own comments just recently that were definately untrue. I admit, we had confrontations in the past, but since you have returned under your latest PALE id, I have bitten my tongue and responded no differently to other posters on these threads. I understand that you still have your guard up as do I.

Now, I have my views, that are very different to yours, I am not a supporter of PALE. For us to have peace, we have to able to respect those differences and not read more into a post than what is actually there. If I have a view on live exports, thats my opinion, not a shot at PALE. Same for you. You have problems with Animals Australia and Voiceless, I support them. (things have changed since "that email") I will respect your view on that even though we may get into a debate about it. Isnt that what the forum is all about? It is very easy when you are posting under PALE for comments to look like they against the organisation when the remark may have been intended for you personally.

I came into the car park for two reasons.

One I saw it was quite and I was thinking to myself it would be nice to let Robert know someone appreciated his thread.

The other reason was I wanted to know if anything had happend about the button.

I only mentioned to Robert
I was happy just to post in my name because you had made a complaint about people posting in the name of organisations.

As a result of that comment I wanted to let Robert Know if it meant peace for everybody I was happy with my name. In fact that is all I asked for.

There was nothing else I had to say.

You came in after me with this> telling me I could not talk to Robert and that he was not a mediator despite the fact he put the thread their with an invitation to make suggestions to him.

I responeded with what I thought may have been a friendly sensible reply.

This time you came in and basically accused me of being dishonest. You indicted you thought others were posting in my name which is untrue
That is an attack on my honesty

You go on to say I have problems with Animals Australia. That is simply not true.
Basically I support RSPCA main stream view and of course they are veg and vegan. I happen to believe it is best to stick to the legal body and authority to Animal welfare in Autralia which is the RSPCA.
You are free to choose as well.

As I said before its now not, one not two, but three Animal Welfare organisations that have said.

enough is enough.



These are facts

I tried to speak with Robert but you complained about that.

I reponded nicely to you .

Best wishes for your future and please for the sake of the forum staff just forget about me

Antje Struthmann

"I came into the car park for two reasons.

One I saw it was quite and I was thinking to myself it would be nice to let Robert know someone appreciated his thread.

The other reason was I wanted to know if anything had happend about the button."

Then why do you find it necessary to refer to me in all your posts? Is there some other reason behind that?

I support Voiceless by the way. You are not correct. I have no problems with them.

I also support RSPCA AA AL AACT PACAT and many others.

I do believe however that as Australia is a 96 meat eating country we must re open abattoirs if we ever want to stop Live Animal Exports.

That simply makes good sense. I for one am very pleased that 'things have changed since that email'

You had good people going to bat for you.

As far as I am concerned that is a huge step in the right direction if Free Range Farmers are to be openly supported.

I will also contiune with our own Free Range Farmers program and its great to know so many people are working towards the same end.

A face of a Free Range Farmer that all public will immediately recognise as the humane choice is what I am working towards.
That and of course more Free Range Farmers to handle the supply of the public demand.

I have no personal interest in anything other than seeing more Animal Welfare in Australia. I will stand by the RSPCA QLD and of course RSPCA in general.



Mrs Antje Struthmann

You are right Antje - enough is enough

Enough of your threats, false statements, inuedo and taking my comments out of context from the thread.

My comments are no different to anyone elses, you just like to pick them to pieces and treat me differently to any other poster. Its time to stop.