Dear Kucutz,

Don't worry, I've gone and done it for you. Took me less than 5 minutes.

This is what Jay of Melbourne deliver as his gotcha moment;

“Bingo, found it on a Dutch site, in Dutch. http://webcdn.aa.com.tr/webdocs/625x424xc/content_new/983/aylan-kurdi_web-jpg20150904092745.jpg
It's the same kid, shoes with reddish-orange soles and dark uppers, other photos show him being carried to and from the position in which the propaganda stills and video were taken. This isn't the first time staged, if not outright fabricated material has been passed off as real or promoted without disclaimers”.

This is the account of the photographer who was one of the first on the scene and took the tragic photograph.

Quote;

“Demir, 29, has worked for Dogan News Agency, also known as DHA, since she was a teenager. Based in Bodrum, she responded to reports of activity at the beach and discovered that several bodies had washed up on shore. Once she grew close, "we saw that they were dead children's bodies," she said. She and her DHA colleagues found Aylan's body first. Soon after, a short distance down the beach, they came across the body of his brother Galip, 4.
"He was laying on the beach the same way. He also had his shirt, his shorts and shoes on. They had nothing -- no life vest, no arm floats, no life buoy to keep them floating on the water," Demir said. "This actually revealed how tragic that moment was."
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http://edition.cnn.com/2015/09/03/world/dead-migrant-boy-beach-photographer-nilufer-demir/

So the body among the rocks was Aylan's brother Galip.
Jay of Melbourne twisted facts to push his toxic agenda. He literally used the bodies of these two victims in the service of his avowed racism. It worked, based on JOM's fabrication you called their father "scum".

The question is do you have enough conscience to retract it? I hope you do.

Our corporate (Zionist/Commie) media have controlled the prestitutes for 100yrs and our true history has been hidden from us. ALL THE LIES! Christians have been persecuted throughout history and is never stressed in our controlled media.

http://www.christianpersecution.info/u-s-state-dept-stops-christians-from-testifying/

http://www.christianpersecution.info/u-k-denies-refuge-to-christians-fleeing-islamic-state/

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2015/08/21/isis-destroys-ancient-syrian-monastery/#.VeFawUxZToA.facebook

https://www.ncregister.com/blog/mfenelon/isis-be-warned-persecution-only-strengthens-the-faith-of-christians (The Zionists creaed ISIS etc)

Globalism is an intro to Communism
"MUST WATCH" "The Obama Deception HQ" Full length version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuWCR86kM_w

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2010/03/4381/
A Review of Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals

Some good news is that the Hungarian government has found the bottle to protect their country from being used as a corridor to other European countries by sending troops to the their border.

Good for Hungary!

Steele,

There are 2 possibilities:
1. He was in the boat.
In this case, by his own account, he did nothing to save his 2 sons and wife. How can a child just slip away in an inflatable boat, unless it was fully inflated in rough seas with high tube walls? No, rubber boats with air compartments just don’t deflate immediately when punctured. I know. They slowly shrink and go low in the water and most have multiple compartments and still float. He didn’t say it capsized either. Evidently the man had no problem in swimming to shore, so the seas were not adverse.

They story sounds strange. He saves himself and all his family die. His only action / reaction: “oops, they slipped.” Great father this, great husband!

2. He was never in the boat.
In this case is he is forgiven for not saving them, but he is a dirty rotten liar, benefiting from the death of his son and family.

As I said, the man is scum.

Another thing... Where do these refugees get the money to pay for these trips across the med? You hear that some pay US$5000 or even 10000 each to get on an an overcrowded boat, in the hope of getting to Europe. Who gives them rafts? I doubt this is done for charity by the smugglers / human traffickers.

I mean, I don't even have 1000 dollars sitting around. Where do these people get this kind of money?

Dear Kacutz,

Believe me I expected nothing less from you but there was a slim possibility you might have separated yourself from the thoroughly reprehensible clique of posters here. I see that is not going to happen.

You are seeking any excuse to demonise “these people”. You do not want to feel any empathy rather you are striving for contempt. To that end you are, with a pathological fixation, determined to concoct whatever scenario fits your bitter and twisted mindset. You leap on every word, on every nuance, every little thing that seems untoward or out of place to shore up your world view. Even in the face of a man's overwhelming grief you exhibit a petulant agenda to dehumanise refugees.

You really do have it bad don't you.

I'm not sure why I'm taking the time to respond to your slandering of this poor man but for the record things can happen at sea that will sometimes test those with little understanding of its vagrancies.

I have lived, worked and sailed on the ocean most of my life. You most obviously have not. I have absolutely no difficulty in imaging an overloaded inflatable turning over in high seas and absolute confusion reigning. It takes very little time for a person to drown and trying to hold on to an upturned deflating craft, bucking and rolling beside you while locating and keeping hold of others would be extremely difficult.

Neither of us were there when the Kurdis family hit the water. For you to put the worst possible light on what occurred speaks far more about the kind of person you are rather than the father.

You did introduce the word scum didn't you.

From http://www.icv.org.au/index.php/latest-news/media-releases/382-icv-urges-pm-to-be-fair-and-transparent-in-refugee-intake :

"It is our concern that thousands of Syrians, who are desperate and fleeing persecution will be overlooked based on their adherence to Islam, which is not only discriminatory but also counterintuitive to the initial proposal to help the Syrian refugees."

12000 atheist refugees is the very best option, IMO, followed by a blend that recognizes the percentage of Muslims in Australia's population, followed by Christians only.

Why should Australia compromise itself any more than is reasonable? Fundamentalist Islam is what the fuss in the world is about and being non-discriminatory on giving refuge is is not smart on security grounds. How can we be we are distinguish extremists from moderates?

OTOH, I understand how Australian Muslims might feel, as they feel the discrimination is directed against them.

It's rock and hard place stuff.

I don't quite get the "counterintuitive" reference. Would some of our less rabid posters give their take on this?