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Syrian crisis! More refugees to Aus, yes but non muslims only.

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cont'd ...

I would love to agree with you.

But then we would both be wrong.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 10 September 2015 3:03:19 PM
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Tony Tony Tony, you really are becoming a bit of a dill.

Spending a billion of our dollars on settling undesirable Lebanese in our midst will not earn you a single brownie point from your detractors, they will still hate you. Hell you could settle the entire Lebanese population in Oz, & it would not make them hate you any less.

However wasting our billion on these totally undeserving rabble will cost you votes of some who have previously supported you. My grand kids, & the rest of their generation, will curse your name for this, as they will pay an even greater price.

Time to grow up mate, unless it's just too late. If you are going to be hated, at least be hated for doing something sensible, for the good of the country
Posted by Hasbeen, Thursday, 10 September 2015 4:29:09 PM
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Foxy,
Kurdi senior is naturally devastated at the loss off his family, the deaths really occurred, just not in the way the media said they did and the photos aren't representative of the scene on the beach after the accident. You've got to understand that most of the people in that region have very limited intellectual capacity, the median IQ is about 80 and most people score lower than that, Mr Kurdi made up a stupid story because he's not very smart and no doubt he's anticipating being asked some pretty hard questions by his relatives, particularly his wife's family.
Grieving people say all sorts of things,you might recall the story of Ten Rillington Place?
Sorry, it's the first example which came to mind of a borderline retarded man placed under duress and making up an absurd cover story to explain the deaths of his family.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngIuzMCSv9I
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 10 September 2015 5:09:37 PM
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He just decided he wanted to use the opportunity to get to another country no matter what the cost would be.

The cost to the obviously dispensable missus and kids that is. Hey, that's the risk of him getting what he wanted and for many people the world over, life is cheap. Especially of it is someone else's life. Their risk and his reward.

He wasn’t running from persecution.

He is a lying S.O.B too but that is a common trait of economic migrants, particularly those who pay people smugglers.

Regrading the media, it is much cheaper and par for the course for the journalism hacks who are so common these days to make and beat up stories. Not a new thing, remember the journalists who covered the Vietnam War from the bar of the Press Club in Canberra?

Some get caught out and here is a recent example, remembering that it was only the direct observation and reporting of their deceit by another media outlet that resulted in action,

<Journalists sacked over faked Morcombe reports ['Choppergate']

Channel Nine's director of news in Brisbane has resigned and three journalists have been sacked for faking reports about the search for Daniel Morcombe's remains.

On separate days, two reporters filed fake crosses from the station's helicopter, saying they were near Beerwah, over the site of the search for the remains of the murdered Queensland teenager.

In one incident, the chopper was actually hovering near the station's Mt Coot-tha studios and in the other, it remained on the Channel Nine helipad - and was filmed there by a rival network as the live cross went to air.

Earlier this week Channel Nine admitted the crosses had been faked, citing time restraints and poor weather.

Director of Queensland news Lee Anderson resigned after almost 25 years working for the network, while reporters Melissa Mallet and Cameron Price were sacked, as well as producer Aaron Wakeley.>

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-08-25/reporters-sacked-over-fake-chopper-crosses/2856172
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 10 September 2015 7:08:55 PM
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I think we need to explain to the bleeding hearts and anti Australian refugee advocates the nature of that confusing mix of sensations they may be experiencing at the moment.
You've seen a photograph depicting the figure of a child lying prone on a beach, an assemblage of bits and bytes recorded by a light sensing microchip.
What you're experiencing as you view this image isn't "empathy", it's imagination, that's not a dead child before you, it's a digital image, everything you attribute to it's millions of pixels is what we call "imagination".
Now if the image causes you to be upset or agitated because you imagine that certain things have taken place, that is to say you've invented a story in your head to go with the picture then that's not "empathy" either, that's what we call "hysteria".
When you experience emotions based on imaginary scenarios that's a hysterical reaction, when you share your hysteria with others close to you that's called "empathy" in this context.
See empathy only occurs when two or more people are in close proximity to one another, you can't empathise with a photograph, or a corpse for that matter.
Your empathy is actually with your peers, your family, your social caste and so forth, not with the subject of the photo or more broadly those you imagine to be suffering.
Empathy is a satisfying sensation for most people, it's one element of social cohesion and signalling such to others of your caste, creed or nation is almost instinctive empathic behaviour.
This behaviour is the root cause of the critique of the upper castes by the lower and subaltern castes, we might describe you as aloof from the consequences of your actions, elitist, snobbish, selfish or even oblivious.
Because in the end your "humanitarianism" is all about you, dear bleeding heart and the social cohesion of your castes, empathy is the glue which holds your world together but don't kid yourself that it extends much beyond your tax bracket.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Thursday, 10 September 2015 9:35:28 PM
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This place can indeed resemble a cesspool sometimes.

Dear Kactuz,

You wrote;

“This Kurdi is scum”

Let me get this straight, you are now describing the father of the family who perished so tragically 'scum' on the basis of claims by our two resident nut jobs?

Good god woman, look at what they are peddling.

JOM has gone all Matrix on us;

“You've seen a photograph depicting the figure of a child lying prone on a beach, an assemblage of bits and bytes recorded by a light sensing microchip. What you're experiencing as you view this image isn't "empathy", it's imagination, that's not a dead child before you, it's a digital image, ... you've invented a story in your head to go with the picture then that's not "empathy" either, that's what we call "hysteria". “

OTB is off on his usual irrelevancies. By his reckoning media crossing the line (hardly proven) means Mr Kurdi must be thus branded. Next he will be attacking Daniel Morcombe's father for the actions of the three journalists.

I am totally at odds with the values you seem to hold, that's fine it is a free world, but just try and avoid lapping up every bit of conspiracy touting nonsense that is written here. Go do your own research.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 11 September 2015 12:46:07 AM
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