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Syrian crisis! More refugees to Aus, yes but non muslims only.

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Steele, nope, you're wrong unfortunately, this is how Galip Kurdi was allegedly found, the body of Ayman was definitely moved and posed for the cameras.
http://media-cdn.t24.com.tr/media/library/2015/09/galip-kurdi_857153008.jpg
Steele I spend hours checking these things before posting them, this is pretty much all I do in with my evenings apart from enjoying British cop shows and listening to obscure European Metal music.
The most likely explanation is that the other bodies were damaged or too disturbing in appearance to be useful for propaganda purposes and Ayman's wasn't.
The photos of other dead children from that voyage are quite gruesome, be warned.
http://hroarr.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Syria-Drowned-Children-Charity-2015-02-795x578.jpg
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 11 September 2015 4:26:43 PM
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Oh for the love of God please stop.

I have little issue with you making a complete and utter fool of yourself on this forum mate, but to be doing so with this tragedy is just sick and frankly beneath contempt.

Hours of research my arse!

It took me two minutes to find this photograph;

http://rojnama.wordpress.com/2015/09/03/1-555/#jp-carousel-9662

Please compare it to the one you posted originally.

http://webcdn.aa.com.tr/webdocs/625x424xc/content_new/983/aylan-kurdi_web-jpg20150904092745.jpg

This is a different child, unless you are now contending that part of this great conspiracy you have dreamed up had the officer and photographers actually taking the time to change the poor infant's tee shirt before planting the body up the beach.

Do I know for sure that this is child Aylan's brother? No, but I'm far more prepared to take the word of the photographer on the scene rather than some probably mislabelled image from some obscure site you have posted. What is plainly evident is that it is not Aylan.

Now give it up please because you are really pissing me off.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 11 September 2015 5:10:50 PM
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Steele, yes they quite clearly did change the infant's t-shirt after they moved him, probably so it matched the photos they'd been given by his distraught father which were taken just before the voyage.
http://data1.ibtimes.co.in/cache-img-484-0-photo/en/full/29315/1441314595_aylan-kurdi-playing-football-it-claimed-be-his-last-photograph.jpg
The hair is the same, the bodily proportions are the same, the shoes are the same, the shorts are the same and it's the same rescue worker at both scenes.
This isn't a big "conspiracy" it involves only a couple of people in the original publicity stunt, jeez don't get so upset, the clothes have to match in both photos otherwise the conspiracy nuts would be up in arms claiming trickery and the bleeding hearts wouldn't bleed quite so freely. Have you seen anyone declaring the photos to be fakes? Exactly, neither have I and the reason there's been no outcry is because the people who set up the photo shoot on the beach have some basic grasp of continuity on set. 'Hey his shirt's different! Get the father down here and see if he's still got the red one!"
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 11 September 2015 5:44:03 PM
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Poor bubba steeleredux is peed off because he is not getting his own way. Since my run in with him, I would never again respond to him or address him directly. He strikes me as the type who, in a face to face discussion, would smack you in mouth if you dared to disagree with him. I don't now he tolerates we "reprehensible" people. He should literally pee off and leave us alone. I certainly will not be reading anything the ratbag says.
Posted by ttbn, Friday, 11 September 2015 6:02:12 PM
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Steele as you see from my last post you can attach any meaning you want to those photos if you use your imagination, my point is that all interpretations of that digital image are subjective and we all use those interpretations to signal to others of our social caste or class. You're signalling empathy with your peers in the White middle castes and the bourgeoisie, I'm signalling to the White subaltern caste to which I belong and the White under caste below me.
You signal feigned sympathy for the drowned boy to show solidarity with people of your rank in society because the social cohesion of those castes is built on certain ideals which we all understand and which we don't need to go into any further at this points.
Social cohesion in the subaltern caste is dependant upon other social signals to generate empathy, again, in this discussion we don't need to go too deeply into what those cues are, needless to say they are often expressed in a coarse, uncouth fashion.
Your social signals have no currency in my caste and vice versa, it's like two different languages.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 11 September 2015 6:12:45 PM
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Dear SteeleRedux,

Thank You for your well reasoned and rational posts.
If it wasn't for posters like yourself I would have
left this forum a long time ago. I admire your
perseverance and tenacity. However, don't let the
vacuous get to you. They are not in your
league.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 11 September 2015 6:32:53 PM
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