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Syrian crisis! More refugees to Aus, yes but non muslims only.
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Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 3:56:39 PM
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kactuz,
Jay is right. The father wasn't even there. Says a lot about him - apart form his being a liar - that he would leave the mother and two kids to do the voyage. I wonder if he will still be able to get his new teeth free? Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 4:10:43 PM
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ttbn,
The father may have been in Kobane at some point in the last year, that part is plausible since he may have been fighting alongside or assisting the Peshmerga as ISIS overran the bastion there a year or so ago, it also explains his failed asylum claim. The Kurdis had applied for asylum in Canada where they have family but were knocked back, it's probable that Kurdi senior was on a terrorism watch list if he's associated with the PKK, which is a proscribed organisation in most western countries. Nevertheless the photo of little Aylan Kurdi was staged for the cameras, Reuters captured the whole sequence of events as the boy's body was removed from the rock crevass where it had washed up and posed by officials on the beach, there was nothing spontaneous about it the whole thing was a propaganda photo shoot. I really wish we could upload images here, I've got the pictures at hand and they clearly show what went on but with Google being a pro refugee company they censor search results. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 6:26:50 PM
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Bingo, found it on a Dutch site, in Dutch.
http://webcdn.aa.com.tr/webdocs/625x424xc/content_new/983/aylan-kurdi_web-jpg20150904092745.jpg It's the same kid, shoes with reddish-orange soles and dark uppers, other photos show him being carried to and from the position in which the propaganda stills and video were taken. This isn't the first time staged, if not outright fabricated material has been passed off as real or promoted without disclaimers: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95LcIHNQnCk Be very wary of atrocity stories and the "big lie". Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 7:03:17 PM
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SteeleRedux, where do we take the money from.
Now there would not be a problem had one Kevin 07 not arrived, with his grand plan to save the world, and where is he now, most certainly not offering to drop his tax payer funded golden hand shake that's for sure. One can't help but wonder where we could be now and how we could have helped had we not gone down the Kevin 07 path. But you already know that, you just won't accept it. Posted by rehctub, Wednesday, 9 September 2015 7:49:03 PM
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"My children slipped from my hands," Mr Kurdi told Turkey's Dogan News Agency on Thursday. "We tried to hold on to the boat, but it deflated rapidly. Everyone was screaming. I could not hear the voices of my children and my wife."
http://www.smh.com.au/world/refugee-crisis-my-sons-slipped-from-my-hands-says-abdullah-kurdi-20150904-gjez4o.html Jay and TTBN.... So you are telling me that a bunch of people lied!! How horrible. Would a respected newspaper, a news agency and even the police lie to promote an agenda? Yes, in a second -- or even less. I thought it strange that a father should lose his family, making no serious effort to save them. It didn't sound right, even for people not known for their dedication to truth, life and liberty. This Kurdi is scum. Well, I guess he really couldn't hear the voices of his family, from miles away on shore. Unfortunately too many refugees lie to us so that they can get away from the mess created by them and their co-religionists. Then they come and they bring their mess with them. We are doomed. Posted by kactuz, Thursday, 10 September 2015 11:22:20 AM
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The father of the drowned boys wasn't even on the boat, that was established days ago, he'd sent his family on ahead because the Germans are a bunch of softies when it comes to women and children, his plan was to follow on later. The family had been in Turkey for three years, so his story about fleeing ISIS is a lie, ISIS weren't in Syria three years ago and they have no presence in Damascus where the Kurdi family normally reside.
Steele, let me give you a prediction. Organised crime in Germany is dominated by Lebanese and Kosovar gangs, the Lebanese Mhallami clans, the Al Zein and Miri control narcotics and vice in Berlin, Bremen, Duesberg, Dresden and other major centres. When the Syrians, Afghans and Somalis begin to muscle in on their turf what would you expect the result to be? I'll go out on a limb and predict an all out gang war over the coming winter but that's only the start, Steele from where are most Jihadis currently recruited in the West? That's right, in jail or from the street gangs.
Tony Abbott and his advisors can see the things I, ttbn, Kactuz and the others see and it's their job to think two or three moves ahead, not just react on a purely emotional level. See many of us "old farts" aren't given to bouts of anguish and remorse over propaganda photos of dead children, we can look at them without losing our composure.