The bleeding hearts, & the left/green dreamers are the 2015s Neville Chamberlain.

When will they wake up & face reality? Will they wake up in time, or is western civilisation finished?

I'm afraid my grandkids do not have much future when we will not bite the bullet & start cutting down the way we try to give ourselves & our indolent, the lifestyle of kings, & shoulder all the troubles the rest of the world precipitate upon themselves.

It really is time to stop stargazing, & start repelling boarders. Self perseveration demands it.

Aren't you going to answer my questions above Hasbeen, or are you just blowing hot air with no real substance?

I will leave it to Hasbeen to answer for himself Suzie, but tell me,
how many families can you billet ? Two, three or four ?

Or do you think we should setup concentration camps for them ?
We are just making trivial statements here.

The real crunch is what do you do when the railway stations are full
and they are all filling the parks and streets ?
It is an invasion. It has gone beyond a few asylum seekers turning
up and asking for help.

Sorry Suse, I thought your question was simply rhetorical. Obviously I don't have the answer of course, but mine makes more sense than yours.

You are one of those who wants more of everything for every dropkick in Oz now. The fact is we just can't afford the degree of larges we now distribute. Take in a few million more useless of these people, & that is the end of our existing welfare system, & we have a bunch of freeloaders we didn't even have the fun of breeding.

Where are you going to stop. There's a couple of million in New guinea who would like a nice house in Sydney, & all living costs provided. How about a few tens of millions of Indonesians who live pretty tough, room for them?

Then there's about a million Chinese who still live in caves, & perhaps a couple of hundred million more, who would like Sydney too. Oh & I forgot the poor people of Bangladesh, can they come too?

And this is before you start bringing all these people who hate us, & just want our welfare.

You fail to realise perhaps that today's oppressed is simply those who lost the fight. If they had won, they would be every bit as willing oppressors, & their current oppressors, those fleeing. The world has always been thus, & will remain so despite your wishes for something better.

I have no sympathy for anyone who will not fight for their country. Those who run, & demand refuge will never make a worthwhile citizen anywhere. Through out Europe, & here, once these people feel safe they revert to type, & you have yet another criminal element. Watch out for African gangs in many previously nice places, like Penrith.

Yes it's nice smelling the daisies, but some time you will have to wake up, the world just is not all sweetness & light. Give away your birth right if you like, but keep your hands off mine.

As Bazz says, how many will you personally take into your house permanently?

Here's one for rehctub and Bazz and anyone else who thinks the Abbott govt has the best interests of working Australians at heart.

"TONY Abbott’s commitment to protect Australian jobs has been battered by a company’s claim it was advised by a Government official to sack local staff and hire cheaper foreigners.

A cruise line executive has accused the official of advising he soften the blow to the company payroll from proposed new hiring laws by eliminating Australian workers.

North Star Cruises told a Senate inquiry the senior Department of Infrastructure and Regional Development bureaucrat suggested the company move operations to another country with cheaper wage rates.

The advice clashes with assurances from Prime Minister Tony Abbott the Government is protecting and growing employment as a priority, and feeds into Labor’s concerns the China Free Trade Agreement could give Australian jobs to Chinese workers."

"Mr Milby said one official had advised him to “consider taking our ship True North off the Australian Shipping register, re-register the ship in a suitable foreign country, lay off our Australian crew and hire a cheaper foreign crew’’.

He said the advice was repeated at a June 16 meeting in Canberra."

http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/government-official-proposes-new-hiring-laws-by-eliminating-australian-workers/story-fns0jze1-1227508468291

(That's from the Murdoch stable - in case anyone thinks, like Dutton, that it's an ABC/Fairfax conspiracy:)

Hasbeen, where have I said anywhere on this forum that Australia should have open borders and take all and sundry? You are getting hysterical now.

Are you still advocating that we shoot all the refugees and asylum seekers?