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So are you worried yet?

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Bazz is into conspiracies, and now he wants to jail the only party that takes the plight of workers seriously.

Corruption is endemic in all places where money is involved, If you got your findings from the RC it’s findings are under the microscope too.

The marshal law debacle goes to the top no matter what any one says. I mean can you really take this lot seriously in what they say.

Abbott has caused all downfalls single handedly with out assistance and this shemozzle is no difference than all the rest. Questions need to be asked. Like a breath of fresh air really.

Anyone in favor of what is going on is in cover up mode, that is all they can do, not a word of praise for their much loved repressive regime, just excuses and throwing the bag over it trick, face saving and just a failure to meet realism head on.

All of the crystal ball gazers that know what shorten or who ever else is going to do is dyed in the wool or suffering from some sort of illness.

We are in a state of under-governing for quite some time now, and another 12 months to go even though there is a DD for the offering, which has not even rated a mention.

It’s in the lap of the all-mighty gods as to where we are headed for, we are a ship with out a hull, and no wind to take us any where.
Posted by doog, Monday, 31 August 2015 10:58:14 AM
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It is many years now since State governments thought to make it lawful and a common practice for police to stop a citizen to (lawfully) demand such details as proof of identity, where they have been and are going and current address.

At the time there were those fools back then as there are now who scoffed at any arguments based on privacy and liberty, saying that if one wasn't doing any wrong one shouldn't be objecting to being stopped and questioned.

Once it was wrong for police to stop a citizen where s/he had no evidence of a possible offence.

You get the same mentality and argument supporting more incursions against privacy. Street cameras is an example, as could be the DUI laws. Authoritarians come in all shades, although for many years now they have been more red, as in leftist. But then left automatically becomes totalitarianism one day, so nothing unexpected there.

Nothing like the organised left for staging a public demo though. There are so many serial pests who get their jollies from irritating 'authority' and they get their rocks off by appearing to make 'authority' back down. Nothing like the tabloids either for encouraging the pests with free publicity.

Honestly, who hasn't seen the media talking with demonstration leaders who obviously called them to the scene and oblige by setting up 'incidents' for film bites?
Posted by onthebeach, Monday, 31 August 2015 11:26:15 AM
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I am worried because operations in Australia, as elsewhere around the globe, are irreversibly using up limited natural resources, including oil amongst a vast range, and producing material wastes, including those causing climate disruption and ocean warming and acidification. This is an unsustainable process that is going to make life hard for the coming generations. We need a Earth's Lodgers' Activity Movement (ELAM) to sponsor sound measures to ease the inevitable powering down.
Posted by denisaf, Monday, 31 August 2015 11:38:48 AM
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otb,

"Nothing like the organised left for staging a public demo though. There are so many serial pests who get their jollies from irritating 'authority' and they get their rocks off by appearing to make 'authority' back down. Nothing like the tabloids either for encouraging the pests with free publicity."

Lol!...must get right up the nose of all you ultra-righies.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/aug/31/australias-treatment-of-asylum-seekers-was-bound-to-lead-to-something-like-border-force?CMP=soc_568

Richard Flanagan

"It was news to me, as I suspect it was to many Australians on Friday, that there had been created in our country a paramilitary force that seemed not answerable to the legal limits and public expectations of our police and military forces, but only, and directly, to politicians – those same politicians who of late seem to have little respect for the rule of law, the truth, or the necessary independence of the judiciary.

Known as the Australian Border Force, this goon squad – formerly public servants, lately militarised at considerable taxpayer expense, given guns, the power to detain people, vaguely fascistic uniforms and a mandate that seems to not recognise the laws of their own country – were, we now told, mounting a large operation on Melbourne CBD streets, “speaking with any individual we cross paths with”.

As is so often the case with the Abbott government, this comic event felt like Vladimir Putin meets Rob Sitch’s Utopia; something sinister undone by a reliable stupidity, perhaps our last national virtue. The hallmark bullying swagger of this government’s was matched in this instance by a grovelling backdown as the illegality of the proposed actions become clear and public condemnation overwhelming, and the arse-saving swung into full gear."

"Roman Quaedvlieg, the darkly uniformed head of the goon squad, blamed the now apparently lowly Don Smith, (who, as many pointed out, didn’t sound so lowly as commander of Victorian and Tasmanian operations of the Australian Border Force) drafter of the original media statement announcing the operation."
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 31 August 2015 12:28:40 PM
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doog said;
Bazz is into conspiracies, and now he wants to jail the only party
that takes the plight of workers seriously.

What a load of rubbish. Where did I ever make a reference to conspiracy ?
Are you saying that the criminal activities that has caused some
union officials to be gaoled and to be under investigation is all a
conspiracy ?

If they have broken the law by means of unlawful pressure on members
of parliament then they should be gaoled.
Some commentators in and out of the unions may well have breached the
law against attacking the Royal Commission and Commissioner.
If they have, why should unions be exempt ?
Is that want you want ?
Legal exemption from the law for trade unions ?
Posted by Bazz, Monday, 31 August 2015 1:30:44 PM
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Pairot.
The level of down heartedness is incredible isn’t it . Can anybody think of anything worth while that has happened in this tenure of conservative govt;

It’s all bad, nothing but cover ups and untruths. Now upping the GST is going to finance the TAX CONSESSIONS. There is always a sting in the tail with this mob.
The scar monger campaigns are not working for them. Why, maybe it is overdone, and no one believes it any more, and that could become dangerous.

The goon squad. Mr Smith I wonder if that is an alias in case of a life after politics, as a puppet of you know who. That job will go down in history as another of you know who’s cock-ups.

All good and well but not in this country, Their role is for drug smuggling on the high seas, not infiltrating the police force, We don’t have prohibition or Marshal law. We don’t even have an ID card, which is common practice in neighboring countries.

Bazz get a grip of yourself. No one said anything about the unions not being at fault, albeit on shaky grounds.

The conspiracy’s come from the type of stuff you read which needs multiple scenarios to come together at the same time to work. [ Crystal ball gazer
Posted by doog, Monday, 31 August 2015 1:50:28 PM
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