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Domestic Violence, More of a Concern than Terrorism.

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"the extreme dangers of cheaper ice"

A certainty and will be facilitated by existing immigration and multiculturalism policies that will result in the Mexican drug cartels becoming established in Australia.

Just as the feared Russian Mafia has taken over the Gold Coast (and doubless other centres), and how the Calibrian Mafia became so entrenched to make Australia one of the major success stories of the Calibrian 'Ndrangheta mafia, worldwide.

Australia authorities desperately need legal means that facilitate the prompt export of the imports who bring their toxic values, traditions, political and social systems with them.

Meanwhile, The ABC gives oxygen to the tearful spin of a known thug. 'Stranded' they say and it's all the (Abbott!) government's fault . Gosh, hand out the Kleenex.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-07-13/stranded-rebels-boss-in-court-battle-to-return-to-australia/6607356

Well might the public be asking whose side the ABC is on.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 1:54:23 PM
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Hi Otb,

That last bit - it makes me think that offering people dual citizenship is not such a bad idea: they bugger up, go overseas and bingo ! - their Australian citizenship is cancelled. Goodbye.

Jules,

Ice creates violent criminals. More ice, more violent criminals. Not just that, but violent and reckless behaviour, car chases, head-ons, etc., leading to more pointless deaths.

So it might be precisely the sort of drug of which the supply has to be crippled and crushed, perhaps with a bit of 'extreme force', precisely in order to massively force up the price and thereby (apart from provoking an increase in burglaries and the bashing of old women) reducing demand. On the whole, if the price is forced up, fewer people would even start getting on ice.

But maybe it's all a bit late for that :)

Joe
Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 2:41:38 PM
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Human wilfulness creates violent criminals who choose voluntarily to soup themselves up with Ice (and other disinhibiting substances like alcohol). The choice is between a war against substances and a war against scum who exercise their free will to bash others, or to take substances that embolden them to bash others.

The war against substances has failed everywhere and every time it has been pursued. The Royal Commission is being tried because the war against substances has failed. It won't hear any accounts of solving the criminal violence problem without going to war against the criminally violent for their violence itself, because it's never been tried. Endless drug busts, and the trade continues. One can hope the Royal Commssion will not waste much time on projects for throwing resources into working with the bashers to try to get them to agree to be nice, and on trying to protect their victims with a refuge archipelago.

The war won't be won without identifying the bashers and sweeping them into the trash can of prison.
Posted by EmperorJulian, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 9:23:39 PM
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Joe (Loudmouth), ".. dual citizenship is not such a bad idea: they bugger up, go overseas and bingo ! - their Australian citizenship is cancelled. Goodbye"

Agreed. There are plenty of us with dual citizenship who would applaud it too.

Just talking about 'Ice', there are legions of fools in any society and they will experiment with any illicit substance. Anything is better than working, apparently. Worse, the idiots gather together ensuring there is an effective distribution network.

ATM, the very best thing the authorities can do is be proactive in all ways possible to slow the Mexican drug cartels becoming established in Australia. It is essential too that the toxic imports are ejected ASAP. Initiatives necessary to protect the community include making decisions of Immigration officials final, non-appealable.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 15 July 2015 11:35:33 PM
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Paul, the out of control prison costs are due to them being more likened to a holiday camp rather than a prison.

I used to serve a prison from one of my shops. As an example only, Mon Tue, Wed, Thu, and Sat night meals were a choice of a meat dish (casserole, curry, mince (lasagna bolognaise) or a steak, either braised or grilled (better quality of cause) then there was either a seafood or chicken dish or, there were also glutinen free options along with vegetarian or even very specialized meals for this with intollerences. Fri night was usually a BBQ and Sun a roast night, two choices which would alternate between roast chicken, pork, lamb (yes lamb) or beef. It was a joke.

If I were in charge, ONE, prison would be reserved for real crimes, or thugs like these and TWO, it would literally be a hole in the ground.

The meals would be mince (very cheap at that) made a few different ways. Of cause, if they complained, then don't do the crime.

As it is now we have some offending simp,y because prison life is a better alternative. We also spend less on our seniors than we do on our prisoners. So there is the first step towards saving our taxes for better uses.
Posted by rehctub, Thursday, 16 July 2015 1:34:27 PM
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The authorities should arrange a viewing window at mealtimes so the age pensioners and self-supporting retirees (the majority live like church mice) can drool.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 16 July 2015 2:01:01 PM
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