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Should We Pay People Smugglers?

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SM,

We can all cherry-pick.

Here's some more of what he said (source: Sky News):

"New Zealand's Prime Minister has ruled out paying people smugglers and criticised the logic behind such a decision."

"'It is not my policy, it is not what the New Zealand government does,' John Key.

In an interview on 3NEWS, he conceded there were arguments both ways and went on to say

'You are paying the very people that you find actions abhorrent and also it is slightly double dealing because people have actually paid them to go on the boat so what sort of people are we dealing with?

'They're taking money both ways but the point is, it's not my policy, it's not what the New Zealand government does,'

http://www.skynews.com.au/news/world/asiapacific/2015/06/22/nz-pm-criticises-paying-people-smugglers.html#sthash.t3UGVof3.dpuf

(Funny way to withhold critique?)
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 10:12:54 AM
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Poirot,

Considering that Paul made a huge porky stating:

"John Key New Zealand's conservative PM and Abbott buddy, is furious that Abbott would pay off people smugglers, that were engaged in smuggling people to NZ. Key's described such payments as "illegal"."

Key was neither furious, nor described the payments as illegal.

From your own quote, Key stated that it was not NZ policy to pay people smugglers. A statement of the obvious considering that NZ does not suffer from the scourge of illegal smuggling as it is too far away.

Secondly, Paying people smugglers is odious, but far less odious than fishing dead children out of the water.

finally, Key clarified the issue with "You can make the case [for paying people-smugglers] both ways,"

So Paul's comment was a lie.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 1:35:54 PM
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SM,

"Secondly, Paying people smugglers is odious, but far less odious than fishing dead children out of the water."

Let's cut to the chase, shall we?

From all reports, Australian authorities under-fueled the boat - guaranteeing it would run out of fuel before it reached landfall (which it did). How is this not putting lives in danger?

Combined with under provisioning this boat for its journey in a sub-standard boat - it appears the authorities were deliberately endangering the lives of those they had already "rescued".

How am I supposed to take seriously the proposition that what's going on up there cloaked under "operational matters" is about saving lives?
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 2:37:04 PM
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Poirot, "Australian authorities under-fueled the boat"

Absolute rubbish.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 4:34:27 PM
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Poirot,

You mean reports from the people smugglers. So you are just going to regurgitate their propaganda.

Face it. Nothing was illegal, and all your huffing and puffing has collapsed. Nothing will bring back the 1200+ that drowned under the incompetent labor/green regime.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 5:50:26 PM
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Hello there A J PHILIPS...

Don't worry, just take you time. Personally I've no idea whether or not STEELEREDUX has any legitimacy in what he's claimed, coppers represent a big target ? My own knowledge comes purely from those I've worked with. or those I've known ? The culture, I understand thoroughly, the figures ? Not at all. Thank you
Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 24 June 2015 5:56:05 PM
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