Am I missing something? Are Poirot and Suseonline saying they would support stripping citizenship from proven Australian terrorists / ISIS fighters, as long as it is a decision made by the Court after a fair trial?

That's fine by me also.

Now, can we also agree to lock up they worst offending ex-pat ISIS members (based on their own first hand Facebook photos and bragging) from the time they return until the end of the Court precedings.

Surely we can't allow them to return and be immediately free to do whatever possible sinister acts that they feel are fully justified in this nation of infidels.

Bazz, I haven't seen much about this ISIS 'threat' actually causing issues in Australia. I imagine our law enforcers are keeping all those Muslim fundamentalists at bay then?

I see much more about bikie gang crimes and murders actually.
Shall we deport all those guys to their ancestral countries too, just to be sure?

Conservative Hippie I doubt anyone would not want to punish a known terrorist for their crimes.

SOL: We have a judicial system and courts of law... At least, for the time being.

Well, at least until it’s replaced by Sahria., anyway

SOL: Check out the Abbott's budget plans for poor part-pensioners that are yet to come. All the pensioners I know are worried about the coming pension cuts and loss of benefits they currently enjoy.

They are all self-funded retirees with heaps going on Ocean Cruises twice a year & crusing around the neighbourhood in their BMW’s. That the whole idea of being self funded. The Government should only have to provide for those who are on the lowest Pension.

SOL: Meanwhile, Abbott is in trouble with his own senior ministers with his scheme to 'strip' Australian citizenship from people overseas, without trial.

A better plan would be to inform ISIS that these people want to leave Syria then the Government wouldn’t have to worry about stripping them of their Citizenship. Or, we could let the Guilty Ba$tards home, convict them & send them back.

JayB "They are all self-funded retirees with heaps going on Ocean Cruises twice a year & crusing around the neighbourhood in their BMW’s. That the whole idea of being self funded. The Government should only have to provide for those who are on the lowest Pension. "

Rubbish!
There are many pensioners on a part pension who have a tiny bit of super payments each fortnight who have had their aged pension reduced accordingly.
These people who worked hard all their lives to put away some super for their retirement will be the new poor, when many of their medical bills and other expenses will need to be paid in full, rather than the current system.

Certainly there will be no incentive to save for retirement anymore, as all average wage earners will be sure to spend everything before they retire, in order to collect the full age pension.
Won't that do wonders for the budget?

As for the dreaded ISIS fighters and terrorists from Australia, I believe there are about 100 of these persons overseas at present. Yes indeed, a terrible threat.
I would be more concerned with crime gangs activities here in Australia, of which the vast majority are not Muslim.

G'day POIROT...

Your comments are 'spot on' ! If we allow 'a minister' to arbitrarily strip an Australian citizen of their nationality well we're no better then these murderous ISAL fools.

Don't misunderstand me, it was I who originally advocated contemporaneous execution of any and all ISAL/ISIS individuals who were subsequently apprehended, having immediately engaged in a terrorist act on our soil. But in the cold light of day, a 'suspect' having voluntarily returned home to Oz, MUST be placed before a properly constituted court of law in order he may be thoroughly examined as to his whereabouts, together with his actions whilst abroad.

To do otherwise, utterly subverts and comprises our entire democratic model. A model that enshrines our legal process , moreover our system of criminal jurisprudence. The notion that a single individual, 'A Minister' actual possess a power to 'strip the nationality' from a person born here, is an abomination in itself.

Well congratulations Suse, I see a small concession has been given: "As for the dreaded ISIS fighters and terrorists from Australia, I believe there are about 100 of these persons overseas at present. Yes indeed, a terrible threat."

But this in nonsense - "I would be more concerned with crime gangs activities here in Australia, of which the vast majority are not Muslim." You'll say anything rather than ever admit there is a Muslim problem, and I don't mean a problem caused by every Muslim.

To date no bikie gang has threatened jihad or to start cutting people's heads off.

The reality is we have far more to fear from some idiot lone wolf who fashions himself an IS operative than we do from the bikie gangs who tend to limit their violence to other gangs. One lone wolf can do a whole lot of damage in the name of Allah and a car bomb.