Foxy: Is that the best you can do?

Nah! but that's all your Post was worth, really. :-)

Hi there SUSEONLINE...

I fully understand your compassion for this lady and her children, who depending on their ages, are clearly innocent of any crime. The trouble is, to use that old aphorism '...you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas...' whether she actively aided and abetted her terrorist husband in any criminal act, there's always the risk she's fully and utterly under the influence and domination of her old man, who's proven irrefutably, to be a capricious individual harbouring a very murderous and barbarous disposition ?

If it were up to me, and this woman and her kids were allowed to return to Oz, I'd immediately isolate them from her, 'in perpetuity', and allow them to be adopted, in order they may have some reasonable chance in life, far away from the psychiatric instability of their murderous parents !

Dear Jayb,

Fair enough.

That makes us even.

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4 me!

As a side comment, it is interesting how the positive prejudice towards women mates with patronising attitudes to immediately deny any possibility that a 'wonderful woman' could ever do wrong unless somehow forced.

The strength of Islam and of the Roman Catholic Church too (add Judaim?), which has a lot in common with Islam, is the women adherents. The hand that rocks the cradle and makes the rest of the family respect and pay religious observances, rules the world, or at least is the solid teaching base in the home, that props up Islam.

Maybe the first concern of women is stability and a noxious creed that gives them that base and predictability is better than none. Perhaps freedom can be threatening to that predictability.

In any event, women have choice in Australia and they must be held responsible for those choices. It is patronising and wrong to pretend that this woman was not making choices by her won free will, just as she chose her husband and Islam. White Knights are not needed.

Should be 'Judaism' and later, 'her own free will'.

Dearest Foxy,

As you say,

"Our Attorney-General and our Prime Minister have made it
quite clear that this woman will face the full force of
the law and so will any foreign fighters if they return
to Australia. It will be the courts who will decide the
their guilt or innocence. And that is the way it should
be under our democratic system."

Yes, that may be how it all pans out eventually. But a period of weighing up the legal options for and against letting such people back in to Australia, perhaps six months' assessment of their cases, one by one, may be required.

As to the suggestion that they can be used to deradicalise other dumb-@rse youth, I suggest that they be kept away from dumb-@rse youth as far and as long as possible.

Of course, this stupid woman's kids should be immediately be removed from her influence - that goes without saying. The poor little buggers should immediately be adopted out, perhaps to a loving and devout Atheist, Christian or Jewish family.

So when are the authorities going to open up a solitary confinement prison somewhere north of Oodnadatta, until the ear is well and truly over ?

Sorry if that seems a little negative, Foxy.

Love,

Joe