'morning Paul153,

Who and where "in the World" is this "mitigating climate change" you are referring to going on?

Foxy interesting post. Population does appear to be the big issue in this, I'm not confident we can continue to increase world food production to feed an expanding population.

I do have some hope that we will fair better at maintaining western lifestyles and making those lifestyles more accessible to people in developing nations through improved technology whilst reducing energy footprints. Recent developments I can think of include rapid advances in Led lighting which now makes it viable for the home. The work Tesla motors are doing both to make electric cars a realistic alternative to internal combustion and the recent announcement of battery packs for the home by Tesla are also worth paying attention to. None on their own are "problem solved" but they are big steps in the direction of changing energy use patterns while still maintaining lifestyle.

The tougher asks will be on the industrial front, powering smelters and other massive energy use production facilities and powering ships require some different solutions.

I get the impression that there is some good work also being done on ways of air conditioning commercial buildings that uses a lot less power than older approaches but don't have much of a grasp of the detail on that.

R0bert

"morning R0bert,

Would this be the same Tesla who's stocks are going out the back door, is under investigation by the MTA and has brought to market a battery storage system that costs 30c/kW/hour when the normal electricity tarif is 11c/kW / hour and can't get an average householder through the the night?

You are as big a dreamer as their Managing Director and his now reluctant shareholders.

Only the control freaks after big government & big government pay packets are still pushing the gravy train, & they are getting very desperate as more wheels fall off it every day. Parris is looming, & they have nothing to sell.

I have nothing against electric cars, provided they cost no more & perform as well as the internal combustion engine variety. This of course they don't come near doing. Without huge government, read taxpayer, subsidies, they are a total failure.

Don't put too much faith in announcements by companies like Tesla either. They are mostly pot boiling to keep the huge grants flowing, without which they are broke.

One of these days someone like Tesla will make a breakthrough, & the things will become economically viable, as will useful batteries, but don't hold your breath folks, it won't be Tesla, & it won't be any time soon.

Meanwhile the batteries we have now are very useful for powering remote control toys, pretty much like the cars actually.

I wish I was as bigger dreamer as Musk, someone who is working to make the world better rather than worse.

I've not been following stocks, given what I do know of where they are at stocks don't look quite as you portrayed them https://au.finance.yahoo.com/echarts?s=TSLA#symbol=TSLA;range=5y

You will need to provide some detail for your claims if you want serious comment. I went searching for an MTA investigation and found references to rumours of one but no clear indication that one was occuring or on what basis.

I did find that a safety investigation following 3 Model S fires had been conducted and had not identified a pattern.

Am I correct that the claim regarding costs is from http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2015/05/01/why-teslas-powerwall-is-just-another-toy-for-rich-green-people/ ? The US per KW prices don't reflect Australian prices (and I've not yet seen Australian costings on the battery packs). A report at http://www.aph.gov.au/DocumentStore.ashx?id=52040ade-8c93-4292-a50c-c8ce93c8236c

"In 2011/12 average household electricity prices in Australia (just under 25 cents/kWh) were 12% higher than average prices in Japan, 33% higher than the EU, 122% higher than the U.S. and 194% higher than Canada. "

Given its still early days I remain optimistic about the opportunities this kind of development gives for the future. Battery technology is improving rapidly and I don't have any reason to think Australia will have a long term levelling of electricity prices so those figures in the article become a lot less of an issue.

R0bert

'morning R0bert,
Another " Goremonomics" genius?

So you have this humongous solar array that will not only power your house during the day, well, some days or perhaps no days? But it also has to be big enough to charge your Tesla battery so that it might give you 2kw per hour for an optimum 5 hours overnight?

He he. You might as well rug up and sleep in your fridge each night!

Tesla Auto is facing record Q1 financial downgrades, creek meet paddle!

The world is full of "bunnies" like you, put some money into Tesla stocks if you dare.