'The two climate Einsteins of OLO appear to be peer-reviewing each others' material...and what's more - there's consensus!;'

its called commonsense Poirot something that the regressives no little of.

It took the medical profession from the 1960s to
the present era to get the public, and the
governments we elect, to act on the toxic,
life-taking efforts of tobacco. Eventually sanity
prevailed, although it took so many decades.

Given the interrelationship among technology,
ecology, and resources, can global industrialisation
continue indefinitely?

If world population continues to grow rapidly,
if industrialism spreads around the world, and if
pollution and resource depletion continues at an
increasing rate - where is human society headed?
Realistically the planet has a finite amount of
resources and it can tolerate only a limited amount
of pollution.

Isn't it - is time for economists,
and other experts, who are sitting on their collective
hands to use their power and influence in society and
government and ensure that we have a world within which a
reasonable number of humans and other animals can have a
good sustainable life.

"its called commonsense Poirot something that the regressives no little of."

Let me fix that up for you, runner.

"It's (we'll add a capital to start the sentence - and an apostrophe) called commonsense, Poirot, (a couple of commas) something that the regressives 'know' (we'll insert the appropriate word:) little of."

You're welcome : )

Foxy,
Now you have posted something I can agree with. Your last post and especially the last paragraph. I also note you did not use the words global warming or climate change either.

The big problem is world population. We are overstocked with people and particularly in those countries that get famines.

It has been graphically shown that birthrates can be lowered to less than 2 per woman with government programs on family planning and the means to do it.

I am afraid if we do not act ourselves then nature will do the job for us by way of mass starvation. Then the blame game will start.

Millions of people now need to be taught about contraception and given the means to achieve that. Governments can do it and we should lead the way with tied overseas aid.

This is what the UN and western countries should be committing resources to.

For once, I agree with you Banjo.
However, I doubt all the missionaries over in those third world countries, sent to save their heathen souls, would agree with mass contraception.

I also doubt there would ever be enough money to provide education and contraceptive supplies in those poor countries. It seems it is hard enough to channel food and medical supplies to where they are drastically needed, let alone contraceptives.

Whether or not global warming is to blame for the terrible typhoons, floods and droughts experienced by third world countries, there is no doubt that world climates are always changing.

The climate skeptics have painted themselves into a corner. No matter what evidence is presented to these people, simply to save face, they meet that evidence with derision and ridicule. Short of the Moon crashing into the Earth and altering the climate these die hard skeptics will never face the reality of what is a very serious problem for mankind.

Runner, how is Moses doing in his ark, or Noah in his whale. these believers accept these fantasies without a shred of evidence, yet when confronted with scientific fact they simply insult everyone elses intelligence with their own version of the truth.