Dear Bazz,

Thanks for your opinion and for your advice.

However, I prefer to stick with what I have
been doing to date. I feel more comfortable
with doing that.

Dear Poirot,

I find it easier and simpler to quote as you
pointed out - relatively
small portions from the links and then give the
entire link as well so that people can access
the full information available straight away.
The reason I quote something from the links is
that not everyone bothers to read the given links -
so its simply to get them interested in reading
more.

Now back to the topic...

I cam across an interesting article on the web -
which judging from some of the posts in this discussion
I thought may be relevant to this discussion:

"While I respect your opinion and beliefs and am glad
that you've found what works for you in your life. I
believe differently and your views don't work for me.
What is "right" is what is right for you. What is "right"
is also what is right for me.
I do not want you to impose your "right" beliefs on me...

And your subjective beliefs are not irrefutable, unbiased,
singular truth. Dictionary.com - defines a belief as
"something believed; an opinion or conviction".
It is not a fact ..."

Fox has spoken!

To all of those dear Anglo/Irish 'whites' out there who according to Fox are blameworthy for all that is wrong in Oz, expect more incoming shells from Fox.

Not Anglo/Irish L'il Willie Shorten though, or at least not while he is all for record migrant numbers and is sledging his fellow Aussies to win the ethnic vote in marginal seats.

Labor has problems, in NSW for example,

http://tinyurl.com/muslim-problems-for-labor

Sic 'em Fox, get right onto that NSW Labor mob! LOL

otb,

Your opinion is not my reality.

It is also neither desired nor required.

"The Man In the Arena".

An excerpt from the speech delivered at the
Sorbonne, in Paris, France, on 23rd April 1910,
by Theodore Roosevelt, and today read
at the State Funeral of The Honorable Malcolm
Fraser - at Scots' Church, Collins Street,
Melbourne. It is something from which all of our
political leaders can learn:

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who
points out how the strong man stumbles, or where
the doer of deed could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the
arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood;
who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short
again and again, because there is no effort without
error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to
do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great
devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at
the best knows in the end the triumph of high
achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least
fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never
be with those cold and timid souls who neither know
victory nor defeat".

And now back to the topic.

I'm not sure what sort of leader Bill Shorten
would make. I, like most people can only go
by what the various sources in the media
tell us.

For me this discussion has now run its course -
however, before I go - here is a website that may
be of interest. It is a transcript of an
interview done by Jon Faine with Bill Shorten.
Jon Faine asks some very relevant questions:

http://billshorten.com.au/radio-interview-abc-774-with-jon-faine-tony-abbotts-unfair-budget-100000-degrees-tony-abbotts-gp-tax

Fox,

Your self-claimed, self-promoted 'balance' has cherry-picked Shorten's own Labor site for an opinion of him. So it is not surprising it meets Shorten's approval and obviously your own. After all, it is all Shorten buttering himself up.