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What kind of a leader is Bill Shorten?
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Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:13:49 PM
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yep being faithful to his wife and being a volunteer and good dad is certainly abhorrent to many on the left.
Posted by runner, Thursday, 26 March 2015 12:41:19 PM
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Dear runner,
What an odd thing to say. How on earth would you know what the "Left" thinks about anything. Don't base what others may or may not think on your own biases. Besides - what the Prime Minister is to his wife and family is his business. People are more concerned on what he is (and does) as a Prime Minister and in which direction he takes the country. Now back to the topic. There's a great article in the Herald Sun: http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/opinion/now-bill-shorten-must-show-us=what-he-stands-for/story-fni0ffsx-1227085614306 which states what Bill Shorten must do now. It tells us that Bill Shorten has spent his time focused heavily on restoring discipline and cohesion to his party since becoming its leader and re-engaging the Labor support base. I guess that's something he had to do as the article points out that after six years of infighting and bloody leadership coups "Shorten must have realised Labor would not survive if it didn't stop fighting itself and turn its sights on the enemy across the chamber." Thus Mr Shorten, we are told, set about restoring peace (first with Albanese - who accepted Shorten winning graciously locking in his supporters as well behind Shorten. The article points out the fact that a high point in May in the House of Reps was when Mr Shorten "gave a magnicifcnet Budget-in-reply speech. Articulate, passionate - it raised all the reasons why the Hockey/Abbott Budget would be unpopular. The other high point as the article states are the polls - which have consistently had Labor ahead of the Coalition. However, the article insists that "now Shorten needs to be projecting outwards - outlining Labor Party Policy. Selling those policies and making a case for why Labor deserves people's votes. We're told that simply blocking large chunks of the government's budget will not be enough. I totally agree. There's more to read on the given website from the Herald Sun. It is worth a read. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 1:24:13 PM
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' What an odd thing to say. How on earth would
you know what the "Left" thinks about anything.' You are incredibly naive or blind Foxy. Just turn on abc/sbs, Q&A, read anything that Fairfax produces and you will learn what the left think. btw private philosphy very much influences public policy. Next you will try and argue the leftist dogma that porn does not feed rapist and padeophiles. Posted by runner, Thursday, 26 March 2015 1:29:29 PM
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Foxy, use tinyurl.com when you have long urls.
Posted by Bazz, Thursday, 26 March 2015 1:33:41 PM
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Fox,
You are giving L'il Willie Shorten the big buff-up because he sledged Australians while appealing to the ethnic vote. You cherry-picked what you saw as the 'good' bits and posted them, here, Foxy, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:36:51 AM and here, Foxy, Wednesday, 25 March 2015 10:44:40 AM That was just Shorten trying to stitch up a few percent of the ethnic vote in marginal seats. Political cynicism. You were on a roll from your thread eulogising a dead Liberal leader, Mal Fraser, for his apparent open door immigration policy and support of multiculturalism. The mere fact that Fraser played fast and loose with the safety and cultural values of Australians by overlooking necessary character checks meant nothing to you. It is your tiresome left cultural cringe and left elitist preference for anything foreign and deep hatred of the 'white' heritage of Australia. Got to grin though, Shorten has Anglo-Irish heritage I believe. So L'il Willie Shorten is representative of those 'White men' - you have previously singled 'Anglo-Irish' - you love to disrespect and blame. They are the targets of your endless-diversity-Australia-has-to-have. Shorten is mouthing the right words to get you excited. As for his personal ethics and policies, well the vacuum there doesn't matter now does it? Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 26 March 2015 2:13:35 PM
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My apologies I mis-typed the link. It should be:
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/06/tony-abbott-is-in-trouble-because-he-never-let-the-junkyard-dog-go
There's also an interesting article in the Quarterly
Essay by David Marr, "Political Animal: The making of
Tony Abbott," which is quite revealing - for those
who want to know more. The Quarterly Essay presents
significant contributors to the general debate. Each
issue contains a single essay written at a length
of about 25,000 words. It aims to present the widest
range of political, intellectual and cultural opinion.