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What kind of a leader is Bill Shorten?
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Posted by ConservativeHippie, Thursday, 26 March 2015 2:44:08 PM
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Dear runner,
I don't have the inclination to debate any further with your thinking and "logic." Dear Bazz, Thank You for your advice. As you can see I'm not very computer literate. otb, Your opinion is not my reality! Dear ConservativeHippie, I don't hate Mr Abbott. It's his behaviour that I question and as a tax-payer and voter, in this country at least, I am entitled to do just that. As for your comparing David Marr with Penny Wong? Well both have spent considerable time with Mr Abbott and I suppose each of them would be able to give us different perspectives on the man. I admire David Marr's work as an investigative author. Apart from books he's also written for the Sydney Morning Herald, the Age, the Monthly. He's been editor of the National Times, a reporter for Four Corners and presenter of ABC TV's Media Watch. In 2010 he wrote the Walkley Award-winning Quarterly Essay - "Power Trip: The Political Journey of Kevin Rudd." I found his dramatic portrait of Tony Abbott most interesting. Of course one has to read the entire article to appreciate the full context. It also goes without saying that the moment an author begins to look critically at motivation, circumstances, context or any other such considerations, the product becomes unacceptable for one or another camp of readers. As for my "pretending" to be unbiased? Really? Whose outlook on the world is not influenced by their background, training, and prior experiences. Who does not interpret facts according to one's own values. Total objectivity is probably impossible to achieve, since some bias is unconscious. However, a self-conscious effort to try to be as objective as possible - giving web-sites, et cetera, will produce better results. That's all one can strive to do. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 5:51:02 PM
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Foxy,
"Thank You for your advice. As you can see I'm not very computer literate." Your urls aren't that long - do as you please : ) Here you go, boys....catch! http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/26/after-the-onions-theres-no-doubt-tony-abbott-is-a-loose-unit Posted by Poirot, Thursday, 26 March 2015 6:02:58 PM
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Dear Poirot,
Welcome back. Thank You for the link. Very topical and appropriate. It certainly sums everything up about our current Prime Minister's past and present behaviour and confirms what David Marr and others have also written. I guess as in many things that old adage applies - "It's not what you look at that matters - it's what you see!" (Henry David Thoreau). Again - Thanks. Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 26 March 2015 6:21:52 PM
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Foxy said:
People are more concerned on what he is (and does) as a Prime Minister Really, "they" hang on every word he says looking for some stretch of meaning that "they" can use to bash him with. The "Lifestyle" comment was just one example. He cannot even look at his watch ! To use go to tinyurl.com and drag their icon onto your upper task bar Then when you have a page with a long url displayed click the tinyurl icon and the tinyurl page will display and show the long url and below it the tinyurl, just copy it into your email, olo post or whatever. Posted by Bazz, Friday, 27 March 2015 7:21:35 AM
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Then again Foxy you may prefer not to use tinyurl as it's clearer which site your link is emanating from if it can be easily identified by the reader.
And we've been posting links like we do for yonks - surely we don't require chiding because "someone" makes the judgement that they're "too long". Posted by Poirot, Friday, 27 March 2015 7:39:44 AM
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I'm surprised you didn't include these pearls of wisdom -
Marr writes: ”He walks as though he has to will each leg forward. It’s curious in a man who is so obviously fit. His face is skin and bone. He smiles but his eyes are hooded. The overall effect is faintly menacing, as if he’s about to climb into the ring.
"I’ve noticed that when talking to Tony, he often leans forward and bounces slightly on the balls of his feet, a bit like a kangaroo. Maybe he just has poor circulation and his toes are numb. For a few years, we saw a great deal of his taut torso, often clad in a pair of red budgie-smugglers. But no longer."
“His minders and perhaps his wife have said no to Speedos and Lycra,” writes Marr. “Even so it can be said that never in the political annals of this country have so many seen so much of so little.”
Come on Foxy, you can't stand Abbott, you take pleasure in finding little snippets you think belittle him; declare your position and move on. The rest of us know where you stand, you cannot pretend you are unbiased or just trying to 'share the facts'.