Steele,
I should have added.

The vast majority of migrants do adjust their cultures and integrate with our society, but there are a few exceptions.

When a group of people think that their cultural practices or religious laws are above Australian law it is time to stop entry of persons of that group.

Dear Hasbeen,

1. I'm not a Muslim and never been one.
2. I don't support parents treating their children as property.
3. I never acted that way, contemplated so or personally know anyone who did.

Having said so, just as daughters aren't the property of their parents, neither are they or their parents the property of the state.

What I questioned isn't about the actions of those Muslims, but about yours and your state's - that presumed right to interfere with their life, or anybody else's, imposing your values and social norms on others even while you and your people are not personally affected.

If your description of "real Ozzies" is accurate, then all I can say about them is that "real Ozzies" are pigs, having forcibly grabbed this whole continent for themselves allowing no other way of life here but their own.

While I don't like the practices of the said Muslims, I reluctantly find myself siding with them because you, "real Ozzies", seek to establish your monolithic culture over this whole continent and as the saying goes:

"When the Nazis came to take the gays, I didn’t stand up and object because I wasn’t gay. When they came to take the Jews, I didn’t object because I wasn’t a Jew. When they came to take the Catholics, I did not object because I wasn’t a Catholic. When they came to take me, there was nobody left to object."

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Dear Kirby,

<<we as a mature community, protect...>>

So you (Kirby) are a community... you have no face of your own...

<<That's why we have laws that fathers and mothers cant rape, abuse or stave their children.>>

You may make whatever laws you want WITHIN your community, that is within that group which willingly accepted its membership.

The problem is that you wish to impose your laws also over others who wish not to be part thereof, then you use brute-force to prevent anyone who doesn't accept your authority from entering this continent.

Had it been a matter of self-protection I would understand, but in this case it isn't.

And rightly so that we would safeguard our own type, our own type covers people from all over the world. Moslem’s are not included because they can not assimilate into community. They still want to stone their wives to death and rape kids.

They have something against law of the land that gives them shelter from what they have escaped from.

All religions are welcome here except the religion that says their religion is the only one to believe in, and we cannot change.

Assimilation is what this country is all about, if you can not ,you are not welcome to shelter here.

When there is nothing left but a bomb crater in your glorious land you will be most welcome to go and live there

Yuyustu,

your comments and attitudes belong in the 15th century.
If you want to live in Australia, you MUST follow are laws.
If you don't like it Leave!

I follow the laws of Australia (and so do millions of others) , so I can feel safe and walk down the street, I feel safe for my children to play and have a good education, that we have clean water to drink and healthy food, were we can work hard and achieve good things for all of humanity. By following simple rules, don't kill, don't rape etc, we can achieve great things.

Only Islam supports child rape and women as dogs and should be treated as such.

You may not be a Muslim, but your immature view on life, you might as well be. Please go live in another country, your not welcome here.

As for opposing laws on to others,
Every human being knows that Murder is wrong, every human being knows rape is wrong,
but you want to be apologise to Muslims, that our view is over the top.

God (or Allah or Budda) I hope if you have children, they have been taken away from you. You don't deserve to live in Australia.

Yuyutzu wrote;
"Having said so, just as daughters aren't the property of their parents, neither are they or their parents the property of the state.
What I questioned isn't about the actions of those Muslims, but about yours and your state's - that presumed right to interfere with their life, or anybody else's, imposing your values and social norms on others even while you and your people are not personally affected".

One proper role for the government of any democracy is to look after the interests of those who are incapable of doing so themselves. It is therefore sensible to codify rules that apply to such people. Australia has codified laws that apply to situations in which young children find themselves. For example people in responsible positions such as teachers, care workers, doctors and many others are obligated to report suspected child abuse situations and that is not only sexual situations.

As far as marriage is concerned no young girl should be married before her body has matured to the extent that she is unlikely to die giving birth.

Every child is entitled to be safe and to be educated to the extent limits of their abilities. That should mean that neither parents nor others should be allowed to inhibit that safety or education.

It is obvious that many writing on this site are ignorant of the details in the UNITED NATIONS DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE CHILD
(Adopted by UN General Assembly Resolution 1386 (XIV) of 10 December 1959). I keep a copy readily available.