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The Forum > General Discussion > Should Professor Gillian Triggs - President of the HR Commission resign?

Should Professor Gillian Triggs - President of the HR Commission resign?

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Poirot,

You are flummoxed by one of the most usual personnel performance problems handled by HR managers?

Horses for courses or courses for horses? In this case she is ill-suited to her present role and she ought be redeployed to where her legal skills could be put to use, under direction.

She may not very self-aware nor proactive, or else she would have been seeking mobility elsewhere.
Posted by onthebeach, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:37:54 AM
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Abbott is a democratic and policy free zone, that is where his failings start from. Never before in the history of au has there been such a backward person in the position of PM.

The Abbott and Credlin team roll on, for how long can they put up with such an unsustainable and cowardly govt;. Lies on top of lies, and lies to cover up lies. All of the political donators must be amazed at this performance, certainly not what they were putting their money toward.

Abbott had 50 billion worth of savings identified as the lies went. That turned out to be another lie.

Abbott’s greatest achievement for 2014 was backing out the carbon tax, that cost 6 billion on the deficit. Truly remarkable.
Posted by 579, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:47:02 AM
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otb,

That comment is about as pathetic as they come regarding alleged attempted interference in a statutory body.

Brandis is NOT a HR manager - the AHRC is not answerable to him in any way, shape or form.

Any interference by the first law officer on a statutory body corrupts our democratic conventions.

(Although, I understand that the righties here would be in favour of that if it suits their partisan causes)
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:48:15 AM
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ConservativeHippie,

If we took your perspective the current (Liberal) government would "resign" (when Labor was last in office - or even now) because the Liberal Party, "opposed" 2000 children being kept in detention? Not.

Labor at present is simply causing trouble for the present Liberal Government, taking the same line on policy (to cause trouble) as the previous Liberal party did. The Liberals are now having to take a bite out of the mouldy sandwich, called "Parliament House".

People forget detention centre policy was introduced under (Paul Keating). So many "left wing socialists" did go into silent mode, when Labor was (last) in office, not liking Liberal party policies in general.

Those who tried to voice a concern (on refugees) - it was difficult.

With John Howard, many came back out again on the streets in protest. Both major political parties have now said they will be "staying put" on refugee policy. Julia Gillard had stupid policies on refugees and said we were sending refugees back to Afghanistan: "because it was a safer country." This was stupid, because we don't have troops there on a holiday, they have been there because the country is unsafe.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/julia-gillard-to-send-back-boatpeople/story-e6freon6-1225887832710

The story notes that 10 ethnic Hazaras were beheaded in Afghanistan the day Julia Gillard became Prime Minister.

For one person to resign (is an easy scapegoat approach). Change is needed across the board and if it doesn't occur - Refugees will be either left to rot (like a politicians left over dinner) or kicked around like a political football.
Posted by NathanJ, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 10:58:48 AM
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@579

another royal commission?
australia is poor enough
suggest we skip this and start working hard
time australians wake up to the fact we are already passe on the world stage and we still talk about sending troops here...criticizing on a third country somewhere out there....

i can see in this forum a group of govt bashers
some are nice while the others are not
you and foxy are ok...

the others tend to make lengthy 'wise and thoughtful' speeches
Posted by platypus1900, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:25:25 AM
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Here's a few thoughts from link I cited earlier in which -
Prof. Ben Saul, Professor of International Law at the
University of Sydney, and a barrister, points out - that
the report is -
"grounded in the government's own statistics, the expertise
of qualified child and health care professionals, inspections
of detention centres, and interviews and testimonies of
children and others." It is based on facts.

Therefore - "President Gillian Triggs should not resign.
She has done her job. She is an international lawyer of
global standing. She has faithfully applied the law.
Like most international lawyers, Triggs is not radical.
International law is after all, made by governments.
Triggs was Dean of this country's oldest law school -
hardly a hotbed of revolution..."

If anyone should be seriously questioning their judgement
and position - we are told that - "it is the Attorney
General - by pressuring Triggs to resign, on grounds not
recognised in the Commission's statute. Senator Brandis sought
to improperly interfere with the tenure of an independent
statutory office holder."

We are told that "on the week-end the Australian Bar
Association, and the Law Council of Australia, took the rare
step of issuing a joint statement to condemn the
"unprecedented attack" on Triggs."

"Representing all Australian lawyers and barristers, those two
peak bodies - hardly anti-Coalition - declared that" -

"Personal criticism directed at her or any judicial or quasi-
judicial officer fulfilling the duties of public office as
required by law is an attack upon the independence and
integrity of the Commission and undermines confidence in our
system of justice and human rights protection."

Prof. Saul then asks -
"How should a mature, child-friendly government
have responded to the report? By facing the music, owning up
to the damage wrought on innocent children, and making
it right."

Instead, we're told that -
the government trivialised child abuse, and was
pathologically hostile towards a Commission that merely
sought to make children save.
The finally question arrived at seems to be -
"whether such a government
is really fit to govern our country?"
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 25 February 2015 11:28:07 AM
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