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It's time to decide, do we become 'pro active' or remain
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Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 6:09:24 PM
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Of course it is all just a beat-up:
<<The car-body count dropped dramatically in France toward the end of last week. So vast was the orgy of auto incineration--more than 1,000 vehicles burned night after night as gangs ambushed firefighters and police, raging against French government and society--that when "only" 15 cars were torched one night in the administrative department of Seine-St-Denis, where the violence began, the head of the National Police said that things there had returned to "normal." Statistically true, perhaps. But "normal"? In hundreds of French housing projects and ghettoes populated by mostly Muslim Arab and African immigrants and their French children and grandchildren, "normal" has been for years a sort of chronic intifada, even if it was invisible to most of France and the rest of the world. According to research conducted by the government's domestic intelligence network, the Renseignements Generaux, French police would not venture without major reinforcements into some 150 "no-go zones" around the country--and that was before the recent wave of riots began on Oct. 27. In France's "immigrant" neighborhoods, to borrow a phrase from the American military, "situation normal, all f---ed up.">> http://www.newsweek.com/europes-time-bomb-115189 Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 6:19:14 PM
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AJ PHILLIPS...I understand precisely the nature of 'verballing'. In reality, I was merely making a point with another contributor herein.
Very briefly, in order to avoid any further allegations of 'the verbal' it was decided the old 'records of interview' were to be replaced. By a new process of conducting official police interviews. That is, all future official interviews (Q & A's) were to be video and sound taped. Furthermore as well as videotaping it was determined a maximum period of four (4) hours for such interviews was to be mandated. An extension of time was permissible, but could only be given, just prior to the expiration of the original 4 hours, and then ONLY by a Magistrate. Furthermore the presence of a clock was necessary, and it needed to be placed clearly within the frame of the video. This was done to insure, police conducting the interview, strictly adhered to the maximum admissible period of four (4) hours. All those interviewed, were also entitled to an unaltered copy of that videotape, at government expense. The cassette needed to be signed, dated and witnessed, by the Case Officer and another police member. Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 9:09:06 PM
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Steelie: You sir are a fool. This is a video from the Atheists convention in Melbourne nearly 3 years ago.
This one on the 23 Jan 2015 "Our Prophet, Our Honour. Sydney Campaign 20015 Culminating in a United stand for the Prophet Friday 23 January 2015 Starting at 8.30 AM Outside Lakemba Train Station. http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/police-in-sydney-to-monitor-rallies-for-the-prophet-mohammed/story-fnpn118l-1227190004027 I suppose You, Poirot & Pericles will be there with your Placards in support. I sorry being in Queensland I can't make it with my Placard. "No Caliphate, Infidelious." Surround them singing, "No Caliphate Infidelious, Football, Meat Pies, Kangaroos & Holden Cars, Up there Cazaly, Come on Aussie Come on, Come on & Aussie, Aussie, Aussie, Oi, Oi, Oi, Get out the Areoguard & 'avagoodweekend. Ali the fly, straight from rubbish to you." Mr Philips, was it your work that got Monis into Australia? Just asking. Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 10:26:54 PM
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o sung wu,
After posting my last comment, I later suspected that you had to have been making some sort of a point. The idea that you didn’t know what verballing was just seemed too far fetched. In my defence, however, I don’t think it’s clear what point you were making or to whom. I see no other instances of anything that could be construed as verballing here. Not from Pericles, at least. Never mind. As for your other comments? Yes, I’m aware of all that. It’s also worth noting too that, as I understand it, police were initially very opposed to the recording of interviews until they realised that it actually benefited them immensely. In their defence, though, they probably weren’t as aware back then that the interrogation tactics that the taping of interviews (and time limits) were supposed to prevent (among the other things), often ended up eliciting false confessions. Posted by AJ Philips, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:28:10 PM
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Don't be so naive, o sung wu.
>>And what is meant by 'verballing'<< http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verballing >>...you're not entirely convinced there exists a problem of young Muslims being somehow 'radicalised'<< I said no such thing. You invented it, and claimed that it is my view. That is verballing. And Hasbeen: >>It is a regular occurrence in the areas south of Bexley.<< Crap. You are imagining stuff. Give us some evidence, or get back in your box. >>I really do get sick of Muslim apologists.<< And I get annoyed with people who invent stuff. Just like Jayb. >>...it was near Hyde Park near the Park West Apartments we were staying at. We were going from one place to another when some Arab men came out of a Bubble Smoking Den & told us to find another way but not through there.<< A "Bubble Smoking Den"? In Lancaster Gate? Oh, please. I know that part of the world like the back of my hand. What is it that motivates you to make this up? (And what is a "Bubble Smoking Den", in your fevered imagination anyway?) >>It Was Safeway's in Edgeware Rd that we saw all the moslem women being detained for shoplifting with their Trolley's locked. Their husbands were waiting for them outside in the Rolls & Mercedes, etc<< You must have spent too much time in that "Bubble Smoking Den", Jayb. Posted by Pericles, Wednesday, 21 January 2015 11:33:39 PM
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As a former cop who has implied - on multiple occasions - that I couldn't possibly know anything about policing, I'm amazed that you don't know what verballing is.
Verballing can refer to either an interrogation technique (considered unethical) where the interrogating officer puts damaging remarks into the mouth of the suspect being interrogated, or the fabrication of a confession that never happened.