o sung wu, as you know I am the first to jump on the coppers on the forum when I believe they have acted incorrectly or exceeded their powers. So far what I have read and seen on TV I believe the police acted correct. The tragedy is two innocent people lost their lives. Some of our more learned posters might be guilty of watching too many late night cop shows on telly. There is to be an inquire into the matter, and so there should be.
I think some conservatives in society are shocked at the ease in which this rank amateur terrorists was able to do what he did. Its obvious the bloke should not have been out and about as he was, He didn't fly below the radar, in fact he marched right across the radar screen and into the Lindt Cafe. All this took place despite the past political rhetoric on protection of society from the likes of Tough Talking Tony, and Bugsy Baird here in NSW, who incidentally had been given the powers to act against this type of person by the parliament, but had failed to do so, it was a paper work thing, you understand. Maybe Baird needs to be held to account as well.

Paul,

"....I think some conservatives in society are shocked at the ease in which this rank amateur terrorists was able to do what he did...."

Frighteningly true and even more frightening is the ease with which those so inclined could bring Sydney, or any other of our cities, to its knees and with little risk to themselves.

Hasbeen,

"Sorry Is Mise, that is rationalising to try to cover the fact that they stuffed up. They tried to deal with a Muslim ratbag they would deal with a non Muslim ratbag. A typical example of multiculturalism causing stupid mistakes."

That was not rationalizing at all; what the police did was SOP where there is a good chance that there may be explosives.

The police did the right thing by not taking the chance on him being wired to explosives, after all he wouldn't have been the first Muslim terrorist to ascribe to the Big Bang theory of Exit.

'I think some conservatives in society are shocked at the ease in which this rank amateur terrorists was able to do what he did'

not really Paul wasn't it the Green fools who said that this home grown terrorism was only a budget distraction. Now with police being stabbed in Melbourne and innocent lives lost in Sydney I wonder if its still a 'budget distraction'.

Hi there RUNNER...

We're a funny lot we humans, or perhaps we Aussies ? We tend to whinge and whine about this and that, yet when the 'chips are down' we react or respond with great dignity and poise. These been a lot said and written about the events at Martin Place, with 'what ifs', or 'why didn't they' etc ? I really don't know I wasn't there.

Something I would like to say though, much has been made of the Bail Act that had been introduced by the then AG Greg SMITH. It made access to Bail much easier ? Post Martin Place, everybody and his dog has railed against Mr SMITH for watering them down. So much so, the new AG had it repealed, and replaced with a much tougher protocol.

I'm no fan of Mr SMITH but, it's no secret to keep an individual in custody, is financially prohibitive. Therefore the more people you can keep out of gaol, the less cost to governments. I suspect there's very much a financial feature here, nothing to do with him being painted as a 'Dudley do Right' !

o sung wu,

I have had experience with law enforcenment for decades including being a prison officer with Vincent/Jackson. By far the biggest barrier to justice is the lawyers/judges. I know now that every crim awaiting bail or even parole is spewing knowing how this muslim chap was out on bail. Lawyers seem to learn the art of sleaze very early. Unfortunatly I have had to deal with them recently on behalf of someone else. I am sure their are a few decent ones however many of them are lefty brainwashed money grabbers (usually tax payer money) trying to make a name for themselves.