Paul1405,

All should be well aware of the politics of all of the political parties by now, so lets leave barracking for one side or the other out of this.

First cars, the cars the major makers thought were required are no longer in demand. Major problem. A change in direction takes years, is hugely expensive and is a punt the taxpayer shouldn't be stumping up for.

Nonetheless I think some consideration should be given for partnered research with a reputable maker, Toyota, for the simple, practical car of the future.

Regarding expenditure and speaking broadly, of course government has an increasing cost burden. That is obvious from aged health and support needs, alone.

Just sticking with expenditure on the aged for a moment, but hoping not to make them the whipping boys any more than some have done already, of course there will be some limitations introduced to restrict services for them and especially health services.

While on that subject, the change in Australian population demographics, the contribution of diversity if you like, will see the previously unthinkable become not only possible, but implemented in short order to keep public health care afloat. Once taboo questions, such as should a person who abuses his health be provided with expensive (and limited) treatments, the benefit of which are immediately trashed through his own decisions and lifestyle?

Priorities will be set, even if such decisions are disguised.

Such decisions cannot be related to age because there are (say) sixty year olds and sixty year olds. However it is perfectly reasonable, principled and ethical to give preference to patients who are the best prospects, even if they were not first in line for service.

SM,

"I can always count on your complete lack of impartiality. If you paid attention, I only bring out the silly names when Paul's ravings get too over the top, not that you could ever bring yourself to criticise a left whinger."

Let's hear that again..."I can always count on your complete lack of impartiality...."

Excuse me if I fall about laughing at your hypocrisy...a complete lack of impartiality is your specialty.

And I don't give a toss when you pull out your puerile silly names. Every time you do it you demean yourself in the intellect stakes - not Paul.

Don't talk to me about lies....with Abbott people have given up listing which undertakings he's kept...opting instead to itemise the many he's gone back on.

Lol Give it up shallow minister. Youre making a fool of yourself.

Rabbott is the PM now not Gillard or Rudd. They arent even in parliament FFS.

This is all about the lieberals and your attempts at distraction and obsfucation are not going to change the fact that rabbott LIED!
Again and again and again.
He knew he was lieing and he thought he could weasel his way out of it later.

Well it is later and no matter what you rightards say rabbott and the rest of the liars are going to pay.
No one trusts them. No one believes them.
We are all laughing at them every time they open their mouths.

Now we are laughing at you too shallow. Talk about gullible. Talk about blinkered. Talk about dumb.

Return to the past, even Abbott has stakes in that. I am out of the country for five months, come back and Abbott is still there.
Au is not looking very flash at present; we should be doing a whole lot better. Our unemployment is in free fall and no prospects for future gains. Victoria has turned its tail on Liberal and national, the nat’s would be better off supporting the labor govt, or go extinct. Shepparton has gone independent, held by Ross Edwards for donkey’s years.
Our treasurer Hockey doesn’t seem to be very influential; he is hamstrung at every turn. The xmas break is our only hope of sorting this mess out, if not we are in dire trouble and can only hope for a supply block so the voters can sort this out. If there needs to be a fresh election I hope it is before mid March or I may have to miss out on all the fun.
I hope Turnbull and Bishop combine to put some reality back into federal politics, Abbott and Hockey are not working and have caused far too much damage to be a realistic team

I really don't know what you lot are arguing about. Who is the greater liar. the ALP or the LNP. Both have done a very good job of lying. I think the scores are equal. No contest on either side.

Let's get rid of both Major self serving Parties next time.

Shadow, how can you say "I only bring out the silly names when Paul's ravings get too over the top," Oh! the slings and arrows, Shadow obviously you are referring to some other Forum Paul, a Feral Forum Paul no less, not this lovable Little Green Pixie, who has gained your trust and respect. You know as well as I, that my posts are the epitome of reason, totally and unscrupulously fair to all, including our great and noble leader. When have I ever besmirched the good name of our Prime Minister! Anthony John Abbott, a man among men, a true champion of the people, a hero of the common man no less! You will never see me referring to the omnipotent one as Tony Baloney, you will not see me given to the those crass pseudonyms that some apply, The Mad Monk or Phony Tony. I will never refer to our illustrious Treasurer Joseph Benedict Hockey as Cocky Joe Hockey, never ever, never, never, never. Rest assured never will such vile and contemptuous names pass my keyboard.