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Liberal = Liar?

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LOL, the guards comes up as well they should when the bloody-minded CFMEU is mentioned.

What the CFMEU is doing in Victoria and seemingly with the blessing of the new Labor government is putting men out of work before Xmas. So much for the sub-contractors who have been obliged to toe the union line but are still banned from the site by this blackmailing union.

What could possibly be wrong with importing German expertise to improve the strength of concrete? Might not there be benefit in new processes that will benefit the construction industry?

It is just union heavies WHO GET PAID ANYWAY (and lots of side benefits too apparently) who benefit from this.

Rudd and others were shafted by the faceless men and women of the union dominated factions in Labor. Yet here again in Victoria it is business as usual for one of the bloodiest-minded unions of all, the CFMEU, who have no qualms at all about putting their intsrests ahead of the ordinary men who will not be bringing home pay for Xmas.
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 10:57:55 AM
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Otb, Lol!...I couldn't give a toss whatever you're blathering about the CFMEU. I haven't bothered actually reading it.

I did note that the losing Libs in Vic started bellowing loudly about the unions once they realised that they'd lost their seats...as if unions don't represent the many who were shafted by the Napthine govt...you know, ordinary working voters.

But we all know the federal debacle had a big impact in Victoria, just as it impacted a 9% swing in Fisher toward Labor in a seat it hasn't held since 1985. Since when do bi-elections produce that result in favour of standing govt?

The Abbott govt is poison - with effects reaching into state elections.
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 11:10:02 AM
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You have a very short memory Poirot.

Why should Labor leaders, elected Labor politicians and Labor members live a lie?

<Kevin Rudd urged Labor Party to kill the ‘cancer’ of factions
THE AUSTRALIAN SEPTEMBER 26, 2014
KEVIN Rudd called for Labor’s factions to be “abolished” and claimed MPs’ preselections were threatened if they refused to support his removal as prime minister in June 2010.

He said MPs felt they had to “cower in the face of factional thuggery” and support his toppling by Julia Gillard. The former prime minister’s submission to Labor’s 2010 ­National Review said factions were a “cancer” as they ignored “meritocracy and creativity”. He recommended union influence be reduced to save Labor as a viable force.

“The factions have roared back to life with a vengeance,” he wrote. “They must be abolished from the party organisation. The factions, and those institutional factors which give rise to them, are the cancer which will destroy the meritocracy and creativity that can be the only guarantee of our party’s future.”

Mr Rudd urged party elders — Steve Bracks, Bob Carr and John Faulkner — to recommend “fundamental changes” to the party’s rules to outlaw factions and ­address its corrupted culture. And he urged caucus to “overcome its fear of factional leaders”.>
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/kevin-rudd-urged-labor-party-to-kill-the-cancer-of-factions/story-fn59niix-1227070782113?nk=fbed0b54bee0579448f6b4eb98c1b979
Posted by onthebeach, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 12:07:06 PM
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otb,

yada, yada, yada....like the Abbott govt, it's all you've got.

All you've got is too bleat Ruud did this...Gillard did that...Labor did this...

Who cares?

It doesn't address this repellent govt and its shambles.

On average, there are 4 or 5 articles a day criticising the debacle - and these days half of them are from the Murdoch stable.

Pathetic!
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 12:20:54 PM
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Do we have any problems with concrete floors, or is there more to it than a concrete floor. Sounds a little simplistic to me.
An inquiry was put in motion at the first blockade, if you can read. Aldi wants Adfil reinforcing instead of steel mesh reinforcing. Maybe they forgot to tell anyone when costs were being done. It’s not a reinforcing that I am familiar with atleast not in slab floors, Tanks and gutters yes .
There could be a planning problem there also, with requirements of using steel mesh as reinforcement.
Adfil is a synthetic fibre and cheaper than steel.
So what has that got to do with the shambles we have in parliament right now. They have got to sort this mess out now.
A new budget has got to be worked out before may, with the previous one still pending and unworkable.
Posted by 579, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 12:28:58 PM
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Excuse me if I just tack this up on the notice board..yet more chicanery from the govt.

"The Abbott government is refusing to release documents detailing the cost and purpose of overseas travel by Coalition ministers, claiming they could "cause damage to Australia's international relations" if made public.

The government-wide clampdown comes after embarrassing details of Education Minister Christopher Pyne's lavish trip to London and Rome with his wife were revealed by Fairfax Media in September."

"The blanket refusal has been made despite freedom of information officers in the Education Department seeing no impediment to the release of expense details of Mr Pyne's $30,000 trip to London and Rome in April.

Mr Pyne came under fire after taxpayers were billed $1352 to "day let" a room at a swish London hotel before the minister and his wife, Carolyn, flew back to Australia on the same day. More than $2000 was spent on VIP services at Heathrow Airport for the Pynes.

The documents revealed Mr Pyne had got around guidelines that prevent spouses being funded on overseas trips unless in certain circumstances with a special letter of approval by Mr Abbott's chief-of-staff, Peta Credlin."

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/release-of-ministerial-travel-costs-could-damage-our-international-standing-government-claims-20141208-121xca.html

Pyne just loves to splash around tax payer's money, don't yer know.

Empress Credlin's got a lot to answer for....
Posted by Poirot, Tuesday, 9 December 2014 1:09:13 PM
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