Paul,

I gave up on the other thread some time ago, and let you continue to rave to yourself. As you belong the most hypocritical and deceitful party of them all you can surely be trusted to say one thing and do another.

The CORRUPTION party as led by Christine Minge, Adam Bent, Scott Dudlum, Disease Rhiannon have professed a devotion to an ETS and voted against it, pushed for a price on petrol, and voted against it, published a principle against taking corporate donations and took the biggest in Australian history, and took dirty money from the CFMEU and from one labor member to stab another in the back.

So don't try and lecture me whilst coming from a party that is so corrupt that it would could accept Obeid and Thomson and not change its character.

Here are some of the real names of the members of the Most corrupt party in Australia:

Brown eye Bob,
Adam Bent,
Contagious Christine,
Syph Sarah,
Septic Scott,
Loose Lee,
Wanton Whish, and
Poxy Parker.

Lol!...

That's as good as it gets from Shadow Minister these days, folks.

Sad really....

Thanks Foxy and Poirot some good posts there. Please show dear old Shads some mercy. He has just been diagnosed with "Stunned Mullet Syndrome". Yep the poor lads been boxed all over the ring lately on the forum and is simply punch drunk! No doubt the coupe de grace has been the shattering of his hero worshiping allusion of the pathological liar Tony Baloney. Son, all I can add, is keep your chin up, the knock out blow is on its way!

Dear Paul and Poirot,

Shadow Minister must be feeling desperate and threatened.
And no wonder.
Tony Abbott's cabinet - has been described
by a journalist in Saturday's, The Age, Nov. 29th 2014,
in the following way:

"Tony Abbott's assembled cabinet resembles nothing more
than a support group for undertakers with personality
disorders... this ..." has drained much of the backbench
and press gallery, leaving even Laurie Oakes feeling
wan and listless..."

When will there be a change of leadership for
both major parties?

Paul & Foxy,

Yes, the Credlin/Abbott/PMO style of running govt has got a lot of right-wing commentators worried.

Howard said today: "You can't be a successful PM without involving Cabinet".

Everyday there's a debacle which they have to spend considerable time papering over.

The criticism emanating from the Murdoch stable should give Abbott and his entourage cause for concern.

I recently asked Sky News anchor and columnist for The Australian, Peter van Onselen, if he still thought the govt would win a second term, something he thought was a given when they were elected.

His reply: "I do, but I'm getting less confident!"

Foxy, When will there be a change of leadership for
both major parties?

Poirot, I have to agree with Peter Van Onselen, after the election I said this mobs in for 6 years minimum, possibly 8 or 9. Now I say will they be there after the next election: Yes, but I'm getting less confident as each day passes.

Foxy, on that change of leadership, I believe Turnbull would turn the governments fortunes around fairly quickly, and win any up coming election, but it would take some drastic changers and some major blood letting on his part. There is a bit of mediocre talent in the cabinet, but Turnbull could live (survive) with that.
Shorten is rather ordinary in a very ordinary Labor bunch, but he has a very weak opponent in Abbott, most of the blows on Abbott are self inflicted, imagine what a Whitlam , Hawke or a Keating would do with a feather weight like Abbott, they would have him for breakfast. I try to imagine Abbott up against my political hero Jack Lang, in the bear pit of the New South Wales Parliament, but the thought of Abbott bleeding (literally) perfusly is too much. Lang made the other three I mentioned look like quire boys.
Over riding all this is very dark economic clouds building on Australia's horizon, which won't help any of them. Listing to Hockey last night he is hoping for an economic miracle from that imaginary being Santa Clause. It did not instill confidence in me for the future, with our dear Treasurer hoping for an economic miracle from the non existent Santa, by Easter, I suspect, if Joe is still around, he will be putting the economy into the paws of the Easter Bunny.