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The Forum > General Discussion > We're born, most will live three score & ten, then we die. What's the point of it all ?

We're born, most will live three score & ten, then we die. What's the point of it all ?

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Billions come into this world, most will live their three score and ten, some more, many less, and then we all must die. What is the point of it all, and for what purpose ?

There are those of you who have a religious belief, therefore I guess your have an explanation ? There are others, who have no clear idea or opinion because of their agnosticism, to this our biggest and most impenetrable question. And finally there's a growing number of people who are inveterate atheists, who believe in nothing, and endeavour to enjoy the moment while they can !

Why are we born at all, only to die ? Many have a reasonably happy life, save for the usual,'ups and downs'. While a few, sail through life often without a care in the world, a life of 'milk and honey'. But there are many more, who do it really tough ! Right from their birth, until their death. Living for them amounts to a life of abject misery. Many are from the Sub-Continent, Africa, Central America. However, there's not a country in the world who don't have their share of folk who live in misery, despite a bountiful economy.

What amazes me, the most desperate, the poorest, the lonely, the infirm, most believe in a God ? I suspect they've got nothing else better going for them, so why not ? If God does exist, why on earth does he allow all this inequality, partiality and destitution, to pervade his precious world ? It's little wonder he's losing many of his devotees ?

As a youngster and teenager, I was a regular at our local Anglican Church, and a believer of sorts ? However, when I joined the ARA, and in a faraway place, 'behind' the business end of the legendary M18A1 Claymore, I discovered empirical evidence that God didn't exist. How could he, to permit this atrocity to occur ?

Which brings me back to my initial question. What is the point of being born, when we all must ultimately die ?
Posted by o sung wu, Tuesday, 18 November 2014 2:46:16 PM
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o sung wu,

Quite a profound question - and I'll give some thought to a more fulsome response later some time.

But for now, I'm looking at a rose I picked yesterday and put in a vase. It's yellow, beautiful..by tonight it will be fully blown and in full scent.

Within the next couple of days it will be withering and ready for the compost.

More precious because of its fleeting existence.
Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 9:04:49 AM
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O sung Wu: What's the point of it all ?

Why does there have to be a Point?

Get in touch with Mates4Mates, or Beyond Blue, Mate. NOW!

(Q) What has 750 balls & fuc#$ VC's? (A) Claymore.

I was at the lecture when Lenny lost his legs at A Coy, 2RAR. in 64.

O sung Wu: a few, sail through life often without a care in the world, a life of 'milk and honey'. But there are many more, who do it really tough ! Right from their birth, until their death.

There are those that would keep you down. Like the Popular/unpopular kids in school. It doesn't stop in school. I have come to the conclusion though, it has to do with the choices WE make in life.

O sung Wu: the most desperate, the poorest, the lonely, the infirm, most believe in a God ? I suspect they've got nothing else better going for them, so why not ?

I agree & the Religious Organizations don't help either. They like to have Control of the Masses & hopelessness of the Masses is fodder for these organizations. That's where they get their money from to build churches to look after the "Spiritual" needs of the Poor.
Posted by Jayb, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 9:30:18 AM
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o sung wu,

We are born because our parents wished to carry on their genes.

You did not have a choice in the matter.

Having to die is a shame but having been born, what is the alternative?

Carry on life as best you can.

Help as many people to improve their lives.

Count your blessing everyday.

There is no god, do not expect one to answer prayers.
Posted by ponde, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 9:32:42 AM
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o sung wu,

Which brings me back to my initial question. What is the point of being born, when we all must ultimately die ?

Your conclusion that God does not exist because terrible evil exist in the world I believe is seriously flawed. It is true that it is a major stumbling block to belief to many. In many ways there is as much proof that their is a devil than there is God. Most humans won't ever admit being influenced by evil even know evidence abounds that they are. Moral laws are written on our consience and every honest person knows that all of us broken those laws to different degrees. From stealing as a kid to killing ones own baby. Only self righteous people (evil in itself) deny that they have broken the laws of conscience.

The consequences of evil is suffering and not always the person who did the act (innocent unborn baby or woman raped). You might be right to blame God for giving man a free choice however you would value your right to free choice above anything. Love itself is impossible without free choice.

Our divine purpose is hidden by sin (evil). God sent His Son Christ to deal with the evil in men's hearts thereby allowing them to see His purpose for their life. This is explained clearly in the Scriptures.

There was and is only One man who never violated His conscience and did no evil. He spoke much about eternal life. If He lied like the rest of us His words are useless. He however was and is truth and love personified.
Posted by runner, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 9:36:17 AM
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Dear O Sung Wu,

This question is impossible to answer because it asserts an untruth.

We are neither born, nor ever die - only our bodies are born and die they must.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Wednesday, 19 November 2014 9:42:24 AM
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