G'day there HASBEEN...

No doubt your Achilles heel is your profound love of horses specifically, and all animals generally ? As do I readily admit, my own unconditional love for ALL animals. Call me a 'girls blouse' so be it, I couldn't care less !

Also HASBEEN I see you're in good company with your equine sentiments, as evidenced by the remarks from PESKY BOY and ONTHEBEACH, both seemingly have had long associations with Horses of all kinds and in differing situations ? However there's one sector of the community that owes an enormous debt to the horse. And that's the entire Racing industry, in all it's forms ? Harness Racing, Steeplechase, and flat Racing. I've no doubt these highly competitive thoroughbreds are treated with unrestrained kindness. It's just the periphery of the Industry that has always troubled me. Both as a means of laundering huge quantities of illicit cash, and other corruptive influences that organised crime can introduce to the game, if allowed.

That is the reason why organisations like the AJC, STC, and other Racing Governor's have a number of retired detectives on their payroll ? I'm sorry people if through some element of my ignorance, I've spoken a load of crap about horses and their complex behaviour. It's purely though my ignorance, rather then any attempt to deliberately obfuscate the discussion.

And in conclusion LUCIFERASE, I'm sorry, but I'm not quite with you there, with your reference to 'TIMOL' and below ? Many thanks to you nevertheless, for your response.

Hasbeen, "Those motor bikes are dangerous things"

Agreed. Get a lot of work done.

I have never come across a horse yet that can be handled that has not had contact with humans. My younger brother had to shoot 40 head of cattle running in a large bush property that could not be herded because they had had no contact with humans.

Josephus, he didn't have to kill them, he "chose" to kill them.

PB: he "chose" to kill them.

No. You obviously don't know anything about wild cattle. My brother in-law had the same problem. He found 1500 head of unbranded cattle on an area that had never been mustered.(He inherited the Property.) They finally got them out of the mountains & onto the Home Station but had to destroy most of them. They just kept the yearlings & Weaners. The rest just couldn't be handled.

I know it sounds terrible to city boys but that's life in the Bush.

Jayb, I'm born, bred and worked on stations for decades. Not for the last 20 years or so. Your brother-in-law didn't "have" to kill them, he "chose" to kill them. Yes, to not kill them costs time and money and is inconvenient, but killing them is a choice.

Mankind believes we have dominion over all animals. It will be interesting if over the next 100,000 years we are discovered by a highly superior alien species that think they have dominion over us, and can kill us at will. I wonder if we'll think that is moral and right ..... whilst it's happening to "us"?