Cossomby, "It's about moving from a society subordinated to the needs and wants of men"

first, which 'men' might they be? Because many men would vehemently disagree with you;

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secondly, there are women who have been doing jolly well for themselves out of that society you describe too. But again, not all women.

Please explain. Because it seems that the educated middle class feminists might be little different themselves and probably represent many of the advantaged who have always done well. Except from feminism they won the 'Entitled Victim' badge (yeah, right!) to ease their paths, get some extra benefits and feather their nests.

OTB, no one has said women can't be sewer plungers as far as I know, but it is almost impossible for them to get a look in at any leadership jobs in the business sector.

I think we can safely assume there have been some dreadful male leaders in the past, as well as now, so mentioning the few female names you know that have not been successful in leadership roles is of no consequence.

Maybe if more women were given the chance, there could be more successes for them?

Dear oh dear Jay, what. Boring F^%# life you must lead. Yes dear, are you sure dear, ok dear. Areyou ok if I lead today dear.

Men are men and women are women, it's only when we have men who wish to be feminine and wonem who wish to be masculine that problems occur. Why can't people just accept that we are different, with different skill levels in different roles.

As; for pay rates, if a msn or woman does the same job, the same hours, the same potential time away from work.....AR, now there's the problem, because men don't have monthlies and they don't pose a risk of becoming pregnant do they.

Men are from Mars and women are from Venus. Works for me.

There is no such thing as a wage gender gap. Those who persist with this myth are just poor at maths and fail to understand that the AVERAGE wage for a male and a female can be different without there being any difference between what males and females get paid when they perform exactly the same work.

Here is the best article I have seen on this wage gender gap myth.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/why-men-are-paid-more/story-e6frf7jo-1111112364659

Suseonline,

This is over old ground again.

You are welcome to start your own company where affirmative action determines the selections from the CEO down. Go for it!

Ozzie, one thing you will find on this site is that many refuse to let the facts get in the way of a good story.

Nice article, now let's sit back and watch the gender junkies shoot it to pieces.