Dear o sung wu,

Lol.

Geez mate we've gone from “But you will vigorously argue your point, right or wrong.” to “you cautiously 'cheery pick' - a bit here, a bit there, rather than engaging in a full and candid discussion asserting your position” in the space of two posts. I can't keep up.

I think you didn't take the doctor's advice and instead dropped another of those little blue pills. Although I am starting to see a pattern in the timing of your varied replies and have a secret suspicion the good old turps might be have a hand in it too.

But the sun is indeed well over the yard arm so we can only be grateful you have managed to negotiate the electric scooter back from the RSL, no doubt with the foot elevated to relieve the pain to vent your spleen at me again. Keeping the cardigan in the lap on the trip back was probably a good idea though. Don't want to spook the ladies.

Anyway mate, sleep it off and when the head clears a little, but before the shakes set, in go and have a re-read of my previous post and see if it becomes a little clearer.

I will state for the record though that what Terry Hicks did for his son was extraordinary and not something many others would have done.

Whether he is proud of his son or not is beside the point although I think any parent would be proud of their child if they manage to turn their lives around as David seems to have done.

In the end it is quite simple. Terry was David's father and he stepped up. The Australian government had one of its citizens held without trial for 5 years and they didn't. It matters very little what a few blowhards at the local RSL reckon they would do to him in the end respect for the rule of law is what separates us from groups like ISIS.

Poor ol' STEELEREDUX...

While it's perfectly true, I may need to consign my ambulatory needs to a trusty scooter to convey myself to a RSL to share a moment or two with those 'blowhards' there, I'd nevertheless be welcome. And you...? I think not, maybe as a social member, nothing else ? Your nearest Mosque might better suit. There again, treachery and betrayal comes in many guises, still I suspect you're quite comfortable with that, being an integral part of your nature.

Problem is chicanery and deception has a nasty little stink about it, as does cowardice. Therefore I don't think it wise that you even attempt to reach out to the local Vietnam Vets group for the purpose of preaching and advocating your particular brand of Islamic propaganda ! Even ISIL would baulk, because they too can detect that same stink ? Come to think of it, I'm not sure where you'd be welcome STEELEREDUX, with that offensive olfactory vapour hovering about your personage ?

I've been quietly puzzling over your odd attachment to David HICKS too ? It's an emotional bond that you have for him, that's it ! OK, I understand.

Your persistent whimpering about 'Australia' leaving your friend David, locked up at GITMO for five years, was a denial of natural justice you allege ? It was, he should've faced their particular justice system, ASAP, no argument. Why the delay, I don't know, I've no idea of how US jurisprudence operates ? Interestingly, on one hand your David is an Aussie, the next he's a Pom ? Curious fellow I'm sure. As are you STEELEREDUX !

Dear o sung wu,

I get along fine with quite a number of Vietnam Vets, none are like you but perhaps we breed them different here in Victoria. Our local Veterans Affairs bloke (himself a vet) is a sterling chap whom I have a lot of time for. He once confided in me that he switches his phone off on Anzac Day because of the number of members who get freaked out on the occasion, not handling things at all well. Said if he didn't do it then he would be a basket case himself and no help to anyone. He picks up the pieces in the week following. The other day that really afflicts many of his charges is Christmas because so many are estranged from their families.

But ultimately he is an intensely compassionate man with a deep understanding of the human condition. From what you have served up over the past few days I'm afraid you couldn't hold a candle to him in any fashion at all.

Oh, he is now a complete teetotaller, you should try it some times.

To address your charge of cowardliness. I cannot ever envisage myself, nor most of the people I know including the Vets, being prepared to shoot an unarmed man, a prisoner. You sir by your own admission have made it clear you would have little compunction in doing so. It is difficult to contemplate a more cowardly act.

Finally if you feel you are currently incapable of being coherent perhaps we had better leaving this until the morning. I try to be as consistent as I can in my positions and welcome at least some measure of the same from those I debate. I think we might both agree it is not your finest trait at the moment.

Good evening.

Wu, I'm still waiting for your explanation of;

'Truth' unfortunately, is another rectitude that you've clearly managed to evade --> PAUL1405 !

Posted by o sung wu, Wednesday, 1 October 2014 9:02:29 PM

The post of a coward. All I say is, I don't require your agreement, or your praise. Your silence simply confirms that you sir, are indeed a low life poster on a public forum, who shoots and runs. What is the worth to me of such a person as you, nothing!
I don't much care if you choose to ignore me, I certainly wont ignore you, post what I don't agree with, and I'll say so, if that offends your sensibilities, well that's just too bad.

Just out of interest, if David Hicks was a traitor, what law was he a traitor under?
If he broke a law which law did he break?
If he broke an Australian law, why has he not been charged?

Is Mise, I am glad you asked that question, it is a very good question, one of the best, if not the best question ever asked on this forum. But totally irrelevant. As you well know there is no relationship between crime and justice, none what so ever. By the law of the Jungle, crime is what ever Officer Wu, says is a crime, Officer Wu will in all fairness, hand the guilty party over to Prosecutor Wu, who again being unscrupulously fair will drag the guilty party before Judge Wu, who in all fairness will dispense with the tiresome nonsense of listening to evidence, and will quickly announce the guilty verdict of, "guilty", and just as quickly will pronounce sentence, and being the compassionate person he is, and considering it was only a first offence, Judge Wu will no doubt impose the minimum sentence, "death by firing squad" to witch Executioner Wu will dutifully and expeditiously carry out the sentence! That bloke got off light, you should have seen what they done with the woman in a burqa, and the bloke in the budgie sugglers, before her! Next question?