Poirot, you can put any twist on it you like, and even if my chosen words are wrong, it doesn't matter because what matters is that radical Muslims gain their hatred from the same religion/faith, call it what you like as so called moderate Muslims, so the best option to rid our nation of terrorism is to ban the religion. Although I do fear its now too late.

As for the budget, yep, what a mess. Have you ever given thought to where we would be had we not gone down the Kevin 07 failed today.experiment.

Prior to then we were in fantastic shape, yet for some reason people decided it was time for a change and they got caught up with Kevins media tart personality. If only people had stuck to the unwritten rule of, if it aint broken, don't fix it, we would be flying high today.

rechtub,

You're such a sucker for media spin.

You'll lap up anything this shambles of a govt will dish out to you - it's designed for people like you.

"As for the budget, yep, what a mess. Have you ever given thought to where we would be had we not gone down the Kevin 07 failed today.experiment.

Prior to then we were in fantastic shape..."

According to Joe, we still are!

"Joe Hockey has told New Zealand that there is no crisis in the Australian economy, nor is it in trouble.

The treasurer also made no mention of the "budget emergency" he and his government referred to when justifying their unpopular budget to Australians.

Instead, Mr Hockey reassured Kiwis that their second biggest trading partner is benefiting from 23 years of consecutive economic growth.

"The Australian economy is not in trouble," he told New Zealand political current affairs show The Nation on Saturday."

""There's no crisis at all in the Australian economy," the treasurer said."

http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/australian-economy-is-not-in-trouble-joe-hockey-tells-nz-20140726-zx6ie.html#ixzz3Dtr9kbV0

So there's the big cigar-chomping honcho being honest for once (something he would never dream of doing when addressing Australians)

Poirot,

The country is really in a mess if you are right that the Commissioners of Police in Queensland and NSW colluded with the Commonwealth police and Federal Agencies and the Government just to take pressure off Tony over the budget.

Surely this would be a criminal offence?

Ahh, Rechtub, havn't you learnt not to argue with computers ?

Bazz,

Perhaps you have an explanation for Joe telling New Zealanders one thing - and Australians another?

He was lying to one or the other.

Now I wonder which?.....

Dear Bazz,

It's not computers that are the problem
on this forum. Some people are not capable
of dealing with facts that don't agree with
their points of view when they're presented.

From these people - All sorts of
accusations abound, from accusations of -
"Fabianism," to "Socialism," to "Feminism"
to "Progressivism," to "Emily Listers,"
to being part of the "Grrrl-brigade,"
or on the tax-payers "gruvvy train."
Then when giving sources for one' facts -
one is accused of "cherry-picking,"
and also the sources are often - "unacceptable."
Then
when presenting facts broadly -speaking -
accusations of not
presenting any sources aboud. You can't win.
And even false accusations are made - of
what you neither intended nor said, and finally,
even made up sources are accredited to you that you
neither gave nor read.

So you see - it's not the computers that are the
problem - its the nutters using them who hide
behind thir anonymity and try to inflict their
narrow- points of view on the rest of us.
Facts and different view points be damned.
And by the way - it shouldn't come as a surprise
that these people are the greatest warriors for
"free speech." They're own of course!