Whichever way the pendulum swings with any Government payments Onthebeach, it will affect all of us equally , regardless of where we were born or what religion we follow.

There are plenty of fine older white men in my family OTB, it is only the homophobic, racist, women hating men of any colour and age that I despise....

Luidwig, a link for you...
http://rt.com/news/proposal-belgium-limit-muslims-612/

Quote: The two Muslim candidates, Lhoucine Aït Jeddig and Redouane Ahrouch, are both from Brussels’ two heavily Muslim municipalities, Molenbeek-Saint-Jean and We are elected Islamists but above all we are Muslims,” Ahrouch told reporters after being elected in October. “Islam is compatible with the laws of the Belgian people. As elected Muslims, we embrace the Koran and the tradition of the Prophet Mohammed. We believe Islam is a universal religion. Our presence on the town council will give us the opportunity to express ourselves.”

So Ahrouch has openly stated that he accepts the hate and violence in the Quran and has no problems with the attacks, looting, murder, rape and enslavement of men women and children by his dear prophet. But then again, that is all Muslims including Ludwig's moderate Muslims.

Wake up, and smell the coffee.

Another link:
http://english.pravda.ru/world/europe/13-06-2012/121369-islamists_belgium-0/
It is pretty bad when Pravda is more honest then our papers.

It is time to recognize that Muslims will not live in peace with us evil infidels -- it is just a matter of time. Their values are those of the Quran and hadith. Take a look at Islamic societies if you doubt; or try to find the so-called "moderate" Muslim in them that will stand up to the Islamists.

As we slept, the authorities were raiding the poor peaceful Muslims in Australia. No doubt, our Muslim friends and sympathizers here will tell us that these are not true, real Muslims -- just a few lost souls seeking to express their feelings.

The opening of the West to the religion of hate and violence will be the end of us all. Blood will flow.

Onthebeach,

I had the same experience in Singapore. An old Chinese (but younger than I) told me the West (ie., Europe, Canada, US and Australia) was mad, taking in millions of Muslims and then giving them welfare beyond their wildest dreams. It is a double-disaster. He said "we don't trust Muslims because we know them".

Our leaders are fools. Nothing will change. Even after Rotherham, Boko Haram, ISIS, IS, Al-Queda, the latest outrages and arrests, our leaders will tell us that terror has nothing to do with Islam. Well, my mistake, something will change, it will get worse.

If I wanted to use welfare in order to propagate my beliefs I would certainly be voting for Labour/ socialist/Greens. Just look at Western Sydney. The progressives never accept any facts unless it agrees with their small minded narrative.

' Do not be misled, dear Youtubers. As someone who has lived in Brussels for most of my life, I can assure you almost every muslim I have met has been westernised and democratised '

how gullible can one be. We saw how western muslims were when cartoons were published and they tried burning half of Europe. And where is Rushdie after quoting a few verses from the Koran? Anyone seen him lately? And why is Governments in every Western nation spending billions in order to try and protect their citizens from ' western ' muslims.

Yep we have had a royal commission into child abuse and hopefully crimminals brought to justice, we are having one into the unions and hopefully the thugs/thieves will get charged, now it is time to have a royal commission into Islamic practices in Australia! Fat chance as the progressives with their pig headed blindness have created these problems.

Dear Kactuz,

You're certainly a person on a mission and you're
flogging your anti-Muslim stance admirably on this
forum. But you're not alone by any means as the
following link shows:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-04-21/anti-islam-hate-campaign-raises-tensions-to-violent-new-heights/5402526