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Welcome to Belgistan

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This is really scary: Sharia law becoming established in Europe, and the implications for the rest of the world, not least Australia:

http://www.cbn.com/tv/embedplayer.aspx?bcid=1509282970001 (5 minutes 40 seconds long, now 2 years old)

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Or is it all a complete ruse, as per one of the comments: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbMnA3uO9As&feature=youtu.be .

< Do not be misled, dear Youtubers. As someone who has lived in Brussels for most of my life, I can assure you almost every muslim I have met has been westernised and democratised. Most of them are perfectly content living in a secular, diverse state such as Belgium as long as they have the right to practice their faith, the same right we accord to all religions. The man interviewed does not represent Islam and he most certainly does not represent the muslim population of Belgium. In the 2007 elections, 42% of Muslim voters voted for the Socialist party, 14% for the MR party, 12% for the Greens and 16% CDH. (Zibouh, 2011, Brussels Studies) This is 85% of the Muslim electorate voting for secularist, Belgian parties. "Sharia4Belgium" will never even win a seat and, even if they did, they would never win the support of the moderate muslims. This piece is sensationalist fear mongering. >
Posted by Ludwig, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 1:35:58 PM
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Dear Ludwig,

I remember reading some time ago that Belgian politicians
have submitted a proposal to impeach or limit the
influence of Muslim extremists in power. Sharia Law is
not compatible with the rights and freedoms written in
the European Convention on Human Rights (ECHR) which is
why they felt that the power of Muslim extremists must
be minimized.

There is an integration problem in Belgium.
The following link explains:

http://www.neurope.eu/article/belgiums-integration-problem
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 6:21:01 PM
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The Muslim minorities will vote for whoever gives them the most free money and other benefits, you'll notice that they don't make a stink about ideological differences, Belgium has same sex marriage for example and I don't recall any Islamist opposition in the run up to legalisation.
The idea of Muslims voting Socialist might seem weird but so was the high LNP vote among Indigenous Australians in the NT, minorities obviously vote on policy and personnel over other considerations.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 7:27:27 PM
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JoM "The Muslim minorities will vote for whoever gives them the most free money and other benefits,..."

Really?
Couldn't you replace the word 'Muslim' in the above statement and use any other minority or majority group, and it would still be true?
It's just human nature JoM.

Surely it is the Government's fault if they are going to give out 'free money and other benefits' , and not those who will happily take it?
Posted by Suseonline, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 7:55:56 PM
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Suse,
Nope, secular non Muslims don't have Islam so they will often vote altruistically, the idea of "political beliefs" doesn't exist in Islamic communities.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 17 September 2014 9:38:08 PM
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Suseonline, "Surely it is the Government's fault if they are going to give out 'free money and other benefits' , and not those who will happily take it?"

Are you Asian? A Chinese friend who has been in Australia for many years (ex sponsored student) regards Australians as 'dumb cows' because of this country's welfare support. He maintains that if we really wanted the money we would not be giving it away. He states that in his culture, support of one's family is expected and obligatory, but spreading the kindness outside of the family to community is crass stupidity and complete lack of care for assets, ergo his 'dumb cows' comment about Australians.

Australian culture as it has 'evolved' under the Leftist 'Progressives' exhibits scant regard for the old (all unwanted baggage apparently), particularly those despised 'white' old men, eh Suseonline.

More of that 'diversity-we-are-obliged-to-have' and the political impact of multiculturalism will see accelerated, much tighter control of social services and welfare generally in the near future. For many years now the ethnic vote has been large enough in some seats for the ethnic tail to swing choice in pre-selection and policy. Apparently, it is a vastly different thing to be the ones taking advantage of government welfare (as you recommend, Suseonline) to one day becoming the ones who are stumping up for it as the taxpayers.

Whatever you do, Suseonline, you should be squirreling those nuts away to provide for your future, because there is an already a large and growing rump of the population, the ethnic vote, who do not believe they or their children should be paying for your old age, or for your medical treatment either when it comes to that.
Posted by onthebeach, Thursday, 18 September 2014 6:51:09 AM
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