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Welcome to Belgistan

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Dear Bazz,

Australia is not like Europe or any other country.
We have always faced our challenges and we have
overcome them. And, we shall continue to do in the
future. However, if we are to live at ease with each
other we need to stop the fear-mongering otherwise
we just may end up creating the type of society we fear.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 September 2014 11:08:13 AM
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Well said, Foxy; words like 'idotic' and 'brainless' come to mind, but well said none the less.

I do admire the way that you stick to your guns, ineffective and inaccurate though they be.
Posted by Is Mise, Saturday, 20 September 2014 11:20:13 AM
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Suseonline,

Your rationalisation is the classical Tu Quoque fallacy, ie that others do it too.

Children and adolescents use it a lot, "So and so does it.."

There is also false comparison, which means that you have not understood the import of the organised trafficking (for instance) that is (not was!) taking place in Rotherham. I could add other nasties such as encouraging drug dependency. It is a toxic political culture that has been imported that, along with multicultural policy (the PC for instance that deters complaints and action), that sets Rotherham and other towns apart.

However you are just trying to spread the blame. Why wouldn't you want the offenders brought to trial and the systemic corruption disrupted?
Posted by onthebeach, Saturday, 20 September 2014 11:36:00 AM
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Foxy, which part of 'they hate us' don't you understand. The latest foiled terror attacks are living proof that as long as so called Australians are allowed to worship their Muslim religion, the threat that some will change and become a threat to our peace loving nation will forever remain. I repeat, I don't hate Muslims, I hate the religion/faith they choose to follow.

As for asylum seekers, I have asked you this question many times and so far you have chosen not to answer, so I will ask it again.

If we welcome these arrivals with open arms, which is what I think you want, where is the money needed to provide for them going to come from? Or more importantly, what services, or what sector of our own public will we take from, because we don't have enough now?

While its all well and good to feel all warm and fuzzy, nothing can be implemented without funding.
Posted by rehctub, Saturday, 20 September 2014 1:55:55 PM
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Onthebeach, where did I say I didn't want criminals brought to trial?
More lies it seems.
Australia has courts and legal systems to bring any criminal to trial here, regardless of their nationality or culture, so what is the problem?

Is Mise, you only serve to lower your already low standards by calling Foxy childish names.

Rehctub, no one is suggesting we allow only Muslim or Middle Eastern immigrants into this country are they?

We have an immigration and refugee intake plan that changes depending on world events, and I would hope our country takes those refugees from the most needy parts of the world, wherever that is.

We don't live in isolation here. We have to take part in immigration and refugee intakes if we are to continue importing and exporting things we need from other countries.
Australians want to continue being part of the world community, and not just the little bitter, narrow minded community you seem to want.
Posted by Suseonline, Saturday, 20 September 2014 2:25:49 PM
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Dear Rehctub,

Regarding asylum seekers and the costs involved
And where would the money come from?
I'm sure that the money we're currently spending
on detention centres, and the costs of maintaining
them, including the hugers costs involved in farming people
off to our impoverished, under-
developed neighbours.

It would be far cheaper to construct a more humane
and efficient system to process their claims for
asylum. Allowing them to work temporarily would also
be useful.
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 20 September 2014 2:28:29 PM
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