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Heard on the radio a little earlier;
One Victorian policeman and one Federal Policeman were stabbed in Melbourne tonight.
I did not hear any detail except that.
Not fatal I think, both taken to hospital.

It has started hasn't it ?

We are going to need a political party like the Freedom Party in
Holland headed up by Geert Wilders.
I am waiting for a level headed party that will stand up for Australia
not a rat bag party, but one that will say to the moslems, sorry but
your religion is not compatible with Australia and the Koran is a hate
publication and is banned. All copies will be destroyed.
If you do not like this then please find a country that you do like.
We could even help them to sell their homes etc.

In Holland the Koran is illegal because it states that the Jews are to be killed.
It also is very hateful of all infidels, ie the original population of the country.
Do we have legislation about publications on religious hate ?
If so the Koran could be illegal here. Anybody know ?
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 12:02:22 AM
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Dear Bazz,

The Koran is not illegal in Holland.
Hitler's biography, "Mein Kampf," has
been for over 60 years.

Geert Wilders tried to have the Koran banned in Holland
but he failed. His party won only 9 seats out of 150
in Parliament.

The Koran was banned in the Soviet Union from 1926 to
1957, along with the Bible and other books
considered to be "socially deviant"
by the regime.

As for banning the Koran in Australia?
Well, I guess the question is - if one can get upset over
book burning and the banning of the Bible then one should
be equally upset over those of other faiths being
persecuted as well. To do otherwise is the definition of
hypocrisy.

Freedom of religion means ALL religions. And in this
country freedom of religion is one of our basic values.
After all basic human rights are not on a list we can
pick and chose from a la carte like a fast food menu.

Nevertheless if that is what you are suggesting we should
be reduced to, then it is no wonder that our minds will
become as malnourished as our bodies.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 6:33:24 AM
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Freedom of religion does not mean all religions, only ones that do not offend and which do not break the law.

Some religious practices are also not allowed e.g. Hindu holy men, or sadhus, who have taken a solemn life long vow to not wear clothes are refused visas to Australia and anyone who makes such a vow and attempts to publicly put it into practice in Australia will be arrested and charged.
Posted by Is Mise, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 8:03:48 AM
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Dear Is Mise,

All Australians are free to follow any religion they
choose, so long as its practices do not break any
Australian law. That has been stated many times on
this forum and we should all know that by now.

However, it should also be made very clear that

All Australians are entitled to the
protection of these laws.

If we get upset at being
persecuted then we should also be equally upset over
other faiths being persecuted as well.
Posted by Foxy, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 9:51:44 AM
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Foxy, I had an idea it was illegal to advocate violence in speach or print.
I could be wrong of course.
Re Geert Wilders, I think you might be referring to an earlier election.
I think his party is now second largest in parliament.
I will check in a minute.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 10:45:10 AM
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Foxy here are the results of the 2012 election;
Leader Mark Rutte Diederik Samsom Geert Wilders
Party VVD PvdA PVV
Leader since 2006 2012 2006
Last election 31 seats, 30 seats 24 seats
20.5% 19.6% 15.4%

Seats won 41 38 15
Seat change +10 +8 -9
Popular vote 2,504,948 2,340,750 950,263
Percentage 26.6% 24.8% 10.1%
Swing +6.1% +5.2% -5.3%

Interestingly they lost seats in the 2012 election. It looks like
they have elections every three years, so there will be another next year.

Have you read his book ? I have, I think you would find it
interesting and quite balanced. Certainly more balanced than what
happened in Melbourne last night.

Arrrrggghhh, I tried to improve the format but this website removes
both tabs and extra spaces.
I think it is better than when I just copied the table into the page.

I was surprised they lost so many seats. The next election will be
interesting.
Posted by Bazz, Wednesday, 24 September 2014 11:20:22 AM
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