This disscussion has become interesting.
I'm glad to see us taking part in
some critical reflection.
I also am now beginning to take another
look at Jane Caro's remarks. I guess this
shows the importance of words in our language
and the way they can be misinterpreted by
many of us - whereas the intent may have been
totally different.

Dear O Sung Wu,

What a great person you are - and how big it
was of you to apologise. I think everyone is
impressed by that fact - and we all
appreciate it. We've all been there my friend.

Dear ConservativeHippie,

The forum does at times have a great effect on my
blood pressure, to be sure. And it's very
perceptive of you to remark on it.
But, it has an even greater effect
on my brain. It forces me to research topics, that
I wouldn't necessarily usually do,
to change my mindset at times, to take a look at my
own failings, and above all - to think. So its
worth it.

Dear Yvonne,

Thanks for that - and for giving me -
even more food for thought.

Robert, you are exactly right. And that was really the whole point. Sex is a very important part of a marriage. I would say that sexual issues within a marriage are the early alarm bells that something is going on within the marriage, not necessarily related to sex, but is a symptom of that. To put it bluntly, a discord between what is expected by both or one party in exchange for one or more of the benefits of a marriage. That's why I find the concept interesting that prostitution is intrinsically 'bad' and exploitative, yet there are clearly women, and men, stating that they exchange sex for money of their own free will.

To clarify my views. I'm a feminist. Think marriage is a fantastic and deeply satisfying institution- when it goes well to the mutual, MUTUAL, benefit of BOTH parties. Sex is just the best, most fun and also awesome way of expressing intimacy and love for another person. Almost makes me want to believe in a supernatural being! Just to nip stupid comments right in the bud.

Jardine, feminists have always had lots of sex on the brain. That's one of the reasons why they fought, and still fight, so hard for easy access to contraception. Feminists think women should be allowed to have sex with whomever they want without asking permission or approval from someone else. Feminists are not uptight about sex. On the contrary.

Phanto, you do know what the brief and the title of said Q&A programme was don't you? No, I didn't think so. It was a pun towards the whole title. Dreadful isn't it, uppity women drawing attention to themselves, especially when they are put into the spotlight. Should be slapped right down. I am being sarcastic in case that went over your head.

Yvonne –
Yes it is dreadful when women draw attention to themselves rather than to their ideas when the whole point of the panel is to exchange ideas.

Not only do you have to resort to sarcasm to try and put me down but you also have to try and belittle me as well by suggesting I do not have the intelligence to recognise sarcasm when I see it.

yvonne

So do you support a man's right to financial abortion?

Fascinating.

Jardine Squared dumps on 'the confused, sexist, conflict-ridden, annoying garbage that we would expect coming from the ABC'.

Then proceeds to agree with and expand on what Jane Caro said on the ABC!!

Garbage Squared indeed.

Phanto complains that Jane Caro’s was 'self-promoting her comments as ‘dangerous’.

Well, that was the actual title of the episode, from the "Festival of Dangerous Ideas'!

Garbage Tripled.

Hi o sung wu, how ya going mate?

I'm with you on this one mate. To me sex is an extension of love, I have never had much interest in the one night stand type of thing.

I can't believe the garbage in some women's magazines, suggesting a full seduction with flowers, dinner in a restaurant, lots of wine etc. if you want your lady to bequeath her favors upon you. I do that because we enjoy a night out together, not to use as a crowbar.

For me in a relationship, if she didn't come to me initiating sexual activity about as often as I go to her, I would assume she was not interested in our relationship, & go away.

I have never been quite sure if the joke that says "a man has more chance of catching a bit of sex, chasing it around the street, than around a double bead" was really a joke, or if for many it was true. It certainly does not sound like much fun too me.

I have occasionally wondered how many men marry, [or cohabitate today] to "have it handy" if any. It has always seemed to me that the good operators had no need to, & the less competent with the chat, were interested in something more than they could buy any night down at the red light district, a whole lot cheaper than having a live in lover.

I have also wondered if a large number of ladies have not just grabbed the best they could get, when they became clucky, with the seed being more important than the bloke it came from. In the early 60s among my acquaintances, about half the young men were heart breakers, playing the field, & the other half married the first young lady who took them to bed, nicely.

Continued.