Hi (again) FOXY & SUSEONLINE...

I'm in complete accord with you both ! It take's 'two to tango' and 'two hands' to clap. It matters little who initiates the overture, as long as it's mutual and accompanied with respect. There must of course be an unqualified absence of 'command' or 'ultimatum'. Assuming this covenant or 'entente cordiale' prevails between the couple, then nature will take care of the rest.

Suseonline, "OTB, I believe we had marriage before Christianity"

I suppose so and there are modern 'progressive' hipsters and gay activists who limit the definition of marriage to 'love' too. Simplistic.

However I understand marriage and the marriage vows to be as traditionally and conventionally understood: deeper, more comprehensive and more complex. The sort of sharing commitment , we-are-as-one stuff that sustains husband and wife when both are dog-tired, the finances are a little strained and the children are suffering from a combination of tummy bugs and earache.

You are welcome to whatever bed and house you choose of course.

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You are right of course OTB, marriage is more than just the conjugal rights, but it sure is the more enjoyable part of marriage!

I fully understand why some people desperately
want to get married. There is an innate part in
all of us that needs ritual and ceremony.
I'm happy that I did and I don't think anyone
should miss out on what is essentially a
beautiful day. But through my experience, I've come
to understand that the day after the wedding is just
the next day. It's a new day, and then the next day
is just the next day after that. And if that sounds
like an excuse not to work at the relationship,
it isn't. If anything it makes us work harder. I know
it isn't always easy to keep the flame burning.
People grow comfortable with each other, or they
become creatures of habit. And they're not always in
tune with their partners. Sometimes when you've
been in a relationship for a while, you get bogged
down with a lot of negativity and dullness, and you get
tired of dealing with all that stuff.

One thing that works for me is to imagine life without
my husband. For me - it is a very scary thing to ask
myself to do - and I see a huge void. Huge.

I do not believe in the power to diminish.
I've watched in happen in other homes.
If women continue to jab at what they view
as a man's weakness, they need to ask themselves - is this
what you want to end up with? A man who just says, "Yes,
dear," and falls asleep in the armchair every night?

I guess what I'm trying to say is - the key to all of this
is that one person may do all they can to keep the
relationship as healthy as it can be, but it's not enough
as you've all pointed out. No matter how healthy you become,
your partner has to be working alongside you. If he doesn't,
then as, O Sung Wu, stated, it's like one hand clapping.
It has to meet the other hand to make the sound of
applause.

Caro Q.& A. The Drum.The ABC
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