Pericles,
So you are saying more that 84% of the world population on earth are full of nonsense from black American gospel singers to the spiritual Tibetans and nuns treating aids patients. It must be maddeningly complicated and stubbornly irritating to just not get it. Well your deficiency and poor take on the human condition isn’t my problem but continue on shaking your fist at the sky fairies and especially those pesky Jesuits.

"Not sure how to respond" to what? And? You give me flakey reactions. I said, I never made any comment on your God debate and you know that or you are just confused. You’re very slippery. What am I boasting about? I don’t possess the same self regard as yourself and you must be very afraid of truth.

You are a master of deflections because you are going off the topic of the thread which was your intention all along.

You can't be serious and your are totally uninformed of Islam doctrine and choose to remain ignorant and retort with puerile dismissals and your own prejudice against Christianity. "Smart arses"! So, who exactly are the smart ones?

You haven’t even kept up with history - the days of missionary work were over years ago.

Your contempt and flippancy just shows your obtuseness and deception.
You just “don’t buy” anything outside your own ideals and ignorance.

Cont...

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Pericles,

Let’s get back to that smart arse Jesuit, Georges Lemaitre.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Lema%C3%AEtre
Monseigneur Georges Henri Joseph Édouard Lemaître, (French: [ʒɔʁʒə ləmɛtʁ] ( listen); 17 July 1894 – 20 June 1966) was a Belgian Jesuit priest, astronomer and professor of physics at the French section of the Catholic University of Louvain.[1] He was the first known academic to propose the theory of the expansion of the universe, widely misattributed to Edwin Hubble.[2][3] He was also the first to derive what is now known as Hubble's law and made the first estimation of what is now called the Hubble constant, which he published in 1927, two years before Hubble's article.[4][5][6][7] Lemaître also proposed what became known as the Big Bang theory of the origin of the Universe, which he called his "hypothesis of the primeval atom" or the "Cosmic Egg".

And smart arse Jesuit, Athanasius Kircher (1601-1680), German who in his Scrutinium Pestis of 1658 he noted the presence of "little worms" or "animalcules" in the blood, and concluded that the disease was caused by micro-organisms. This is antecedent to germ theory.

Just to name only two of the many smart arse Jesuits who have contributed to science.

Not to mention the Jesuit astronomy observatories in the Vatican and Arizona. I guess they’re just looking for God or new territory for evangelising hey, Peri.

You just hate anything smarter than yourself as you are a consummate cynic which shows in all your posts on any subject including the people with the smarts on Islam. With your high self regard, you have to disagree with everyone.

I had no intention of defending Jesuits, if it wasn’t for your obstinacy and adversity to empirical evidence and substance.

That’s enough of your deviation, and I won't be responding to you anymore.

Back to the real topic.

Here is an extensive interview with an Egyptian Jesuit scholar on Islam and gives several reasons for Islamic violence and ISIS. His analysis makes a lot of sense:

‘What They Are Doing Is Diabolical’
http://m.ncregister.com/daily-news/father-samir-on-isis-what-they-are-doing-is-diabolical/%23ixzz3CCHeuFxw#.VAboCz0ayc0

Reform, reform, reform, education.........

Talking of diversions, Constance...

>>Pericles, So you are saying more that 84% of the world population on earth are full of nonsense from black American gospel singers to the spiritual Tibetans and nuns treating aids patients. It must be maddeningly complicated and stubbornly irritating to just not get it.<<

It seems to me, if I understand this correctly, that you are lumping all the different religions together, in order to make up 84% of the world's population who believe in some kind of divine being.

Which would be extremely impressive - although still not probative - if they all believed in the same deity. But they clearly don't. And it is quite reasonable to conclude that since they cannot all be right, it is quite possible that they are all of them entirely wrong.

>>Well your deficiency and poor take on the human condition isn’t my problem but continue on shaking your fist at the sky fairies and especially those pesky Jesuits<<

I believe it was you who introduced Jesuits into the discussion. Forgive me for not according them the same reverence that you do, but as a group I find them predominantly sophists. As in sophistry, that is.

>>Just to name only two of the many smart arse Jesuits who have contributed to science.<<

I suspect they would have been equally clever if they had been atheists.

Thanks for confirming I was right about your referring to the words of Samir Khalil Samir. And that is a very interesting interview, with which I have hardly a single quibble. His description of the Islamic mentality has so many parallels with Christian history - I'm talking seven hundred-plus years back, when it was almost indistinguishable from superstition among uneducated people - it is scary.

As you say, "Reform, reform, reform, education..."

But it will take a few hundred years, just as it did with Christianity.

I headd an ISIL recruiter say last night they have over 2 billion members. Does that mean most moderate Muslims are deceived and deceive of their real agenda.

Multiculturalism is not a problem, it's Muslims that are the problem, not all, but when you are speaking of terrorism, it only takes one.

I say this because even their own so called leaders are unable to control the hate that festers within their faith and, while not all Muslims are a problem, this IS situation has proven beyond doubt that it's not the people, it's their beliefs that are the problem and, given even they (their leaders) can't control their own, the faith/religion, call it what you like, should be banned from all non Muslim countries.

At least then multiculturalism can be a large part of many societies without being tarnished by the selected few.

So in fairness, perhaps the thread should be called , .....the price we pay for muslimism.