<< Go take a funny run, Ludwig...and confine your whinging about your Rolfy thread to your Rolfy thread. >>

Actually, I do go for a run most days. But no, the very important subject that is being ‘discussed’ on the Rolfie thread needs to be taken to a wider audience than just the small band of complete hardline knockers that are left there along with poor old Luddie. I intend to keep mentioning it far and wide on OLO.

So Poirot, I guess you would totally agree with my sentiments that the need to achieve a sustainable society is very closely linked to basic feminist sentiments ?

.

Haaahahaha Hazza. Love your last post!! { :>)

What a bunch of boring silly old farts comment on 'feminism' here. None of you would know anything about feminism. Bitching among each other about these uppity women and coming up with the most pathetic cliches is not in any way credible argument about any aspect of feminism.

Bruce, if your daughter is indeed only capable of blanket criticism of feminism than she knows nothing of and understands little of feminism. Tell her she can just be quiet and let the men do the talking. Plenty of men on OLO to tell her what to think and what is right.

Hasbeen, if your daughter is stupid, that's either because of your poor genes or your lack of teaching her, it's not because she has chromosomes resulting in a vagina rather than a penis. I hope it's your lack of teaching and she's not just dimwitted. Or are you a bit like Runner and ascribe to 'the natural order of things' and that there are manly jobs and womanly jobs and neither can do the other's? Bruce would have a bit of trouble with that, he was mum and dad both, a single parent.

Foxy, these emotional old guys don't want to deal with boring data or stats. Too hard.

You know fellows, when a person disagrees with what you say and has different information or evidence on an issue make an attempt not to immediately focus on whether this person has a penis or vagina. That fact should only matter in your bedroom.

Gee, Hasbeen,

I'm heartbroken.

Imagine the thrill of being referred to repeatedly as "sweetie"...and then being talked down to as if I'm a bloody idiot.

......

Ludwig,

"..... But no, the very important subject that is being ‘discussed’ on the Rolfie thread needs to be taken to a wider audience than just the small band of complete hardline knockers that are left there along with poor old Luddie. I intend to keep mentioning it far and wide on OLO."

There are rules.....

"Keep responses on topic."

.....being one of them.

You shouldn't "deliberately" derail this thread (or others) merely because you've dug your hole too deep on the other one.

Yvonne, you display the standard feminist response, unfortunately.
If a woman doesn't agree with you then obviously she's stupid and/or knows nothing.
My daughter went through a feminist stage at Uni, as most young women today do. She reached her own conclusions based on the evidence and her own experiences. She is far from alone in her opinions, in fact I'd hazard that she's amongst a majority of her peers.
The thing about cliches is that they are based in the common experience, that's how and why they arise.
I raised my personal experience merely to establish my source for my opinions about another cliche, that of women being naturally better homemakers/housekeepers, although as a parent I naturally enjoy any opportunity to brag about my successful kids, yet another cliche.
Even the style and content of your post is a feminist cliche, as I said at the start.
Anyone with any interaction with the modern young professional woman can only be aware of how confident and independent they are, exactly what the women's movement wanted to achieve and a credit to them all.
The fact that that very confidence and independence of thought means that they see the feminist movement today for exactly what it is, and largely ignore it, is also surely a compliment to those who fought to change our society, and succeeded.
A LOT of women fought to change an antiquated and unfair society. They managed to achieve that in ways that no-one ever thought they could at the time. However, change they got and society and the world has moved on, evolving in good and bad ways, yet the leftovers of the feminist movement still seek self-justification by trying to fight that same, long gone, society.
They have become a caricature, a cliche, and it's only the media who keep them alive socially or politically.
What an irony that they are being used, used to make money for the very establishment they tilt at, and yet they clamour for this privilege as their pimps dole out the drug of publicity, a drug they are addicted to.

I have always believed in the need for equality in society. Gender equality is one aspect of that concept. Discrimination needs to be opposed in all its forms. To say all that can be achieved, has been achieved, so lets give up the fight is defeatist and manifestly untrue. There still is much to be done to remove discrimination in society, and instigate true equality of opportunity for women, and others in the community.
If anyone doubts that prejudice does not still exist, and ingrained arrogance is not rife, then just read many of the posts from our band of 'Usual Suspects' on OLO whenever an issue concerning any of those they perceive as a danger to their existence is raised. Feminists are just one of a long list of those they fear.

Imagine the thrill of being referred to repeatedly as "sweetie"...and then being talked down to as if I'm a bloody idiot.
Poirot,
what is your problem with honesty ?