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Feminism: Past it's use-by?

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Foxy,

You're so polite!

That patronising clown with whom you're interacting doesn't deserve it.

: )
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 25 August 2014 2:34:47 PM
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Not surprising Poirot that you ignore the imaginary guns that the Commissioner made up in her head. So desperate to demonise and yet totally exposed for making up fibs.
Posted by runner, Monday, 25 August 2014 2:43:00 PM
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G'dayBruce, love your innovative spelling "Foxxy"

I will have to start spelling it that way too, or perhaps FOXXXY or FOXXXXY.

LOL
Posted by SPQR, Monday, 25 August 2014 2:50:30 PM
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Sorry to disappoint SPQR but the double x in that post was a typo only.
I do notice however that the good lady hasn't responded to my questions nor to the link I posted, bit of a give-away or what?
Anyone interested in this debate should read that link, it's extremely illuminating!
The oft-quoted wonder of women running a household, multi-tasking et. al. is highly over-rated, and this I can attest to from personal experience. I was a single father of three kids for nearly 20 years and held down various part-time jobs throughout, often more than one at a time, including running a specialty cake supply and a gardening service from home, plus serving on every school committee etc, and while I won't claim it was always easy it was NOT the great and amazing effort that women seem to believe it to be.
My kids all ended up professionally qualified, and successful too, so I must have been doing something right.
Considering all the support/resources that single mothers have available and which were denied to me because of my gender, not to mention the social pressure I faced in that role, especially with a daughter, I take no little pride in their success.
The worst of it was the fact that all her life my daughter faced almost constant probing and questioning from teachers, friends mothers, and others, as to whether I was molesting her, it seemed that it was almost expected that it would be so!
Try and imagine how THAT made her, and I, feel? There were MANY tears shed because of that, and not just by her!
Posted by G'dayBruce, Monday, 25 August 2014 4:10:03 PM
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At the time when housekeeping was a 14 hour a day job there was greater communal support and children pulled their weight from a very young age.I grew up in the transition from that era to the present and from the age of about seven I had numerous chores like feeding the dog, bringing in the briquettes and lighting the fire, doing the dishes, bathing and dressing my little brother and so forth, which was probably half the work my dad was doing at that age.
Now housekeeping is at most a four hour a day job and most chores are automated, a healthy dinner of fresh food now comes pre packaged at a moderate price and nobody is keeping a chip heater running for their water or drawing said water up from a well like my granny did.
I too held down a full time job and did all the running around for the kids plus kept the house when my wife was working in an executive position and not getting home until 9 or 10 at night.
It's not that hard these days, I normally had the kids in bed and my feet up by 8 PM, now that the kids are in their teens it's hardly any work at all.
None of these advances in material conditions of the houskeeper had anything to do with Feminism, did Feminists march in the street to demand tumble dryers, central heating and microwave ovens or pre cut and packaged veges and disposable nappies?
Noooo, feminists advocate placing women in easy jobs and on boards of directors which incidentally don't have the prestige or earn the respect they think they do.
Politics and high profile corporate jobs are onerous tasks and everyone hates you, that's why they pay so well, most men like most women have no desire to throw their lives away working 90 hours a week and coming home to an empty house or a sleeping family.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Monday, 25 August 2014 5:47:28 PM
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Foxy, a quick check on how much you really believe different choices don't contribute significantly to different figures for the genders. I've not managed to find official figures but a figure that tallies with my impression from http://www.theaustralian.com.au/archive/politics/non-paying-mums-will-be-spied-on/story-e6frgczf-1225863378034

"In June 2007, 82,034 - or 10.9 per cent - of parents paying child support were mothers."

If that was just about the numbers and none of the other factors that go to making up the mess that is the child support system by the logic you appear to be using here it should be evidence of massive discrimination. Personally I think an element of gender discrination, rules that don't reflect peoples real lives, and some different choices between the genders in regard to child rearing make up that figure.

Without discounting the role of stats as a check against popular naratives it's rarely as simple as just the stats.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 25 August 2014 5:48:03 PM
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