Now let’s not lose our heads over this guys, but the Islamist Iftki credits the poor teaching syllabus, substance abuse and the moral breakdown of society in impoverished Birmingham as being the catalyst for allowing Islam run schools.

But Iftki carries the premise that the Islamic model is superior, but the fact is under an Islamic school system sectarian violence among Muslims has been raging from the first century of Islam to the present day. How many Sunni died TODAY because they are Sunni? ......thousands How many Shia died TODAY because they are Shia. ......thousands.............and for no other reason than the difference of a sectarian name. I do not buy Iftki’s mantra of deception.

sonofgloin,

Well said.

Paul1405,

'Runner, trying to justify the rock spiders that proliferate in the Catholic and other churches.

No Paul you are being deliberately ignorant of the rock spiders in Islam and secularism.

'In one way I hope I am wrong about the god crap, and there actually is a Hell, because the Catholic clergy will fill the place to capacity. '

yep Paul along with all the others that reject the Lord Jesus Christ.

I hate to pop the bubble of illusion but there ain't no Heaven or Hell on the other side. If you are miserable you are already in Hell and if you are experiencing peace and good feelings, welcome to Heaven.

And sorry Istfi, no virgins waiting for you at the Pearly Gates, in fact not even any Gates. Your state of mind at any given point determines if you are in Heaven or Hell. The eternal now, it's always now, so try to enjoy it, it's all you are going to get.

Jesus teaches to LOVE one and other including your enemy and that serves as a much better platform to conduct one's life than to be hating those that don't share your same views on spiritual matters. I'm not a Christian but I do prefer a world of Love over one filled with fear, hate and revenge.

'I hate to pop the bubble of illusion but there ain't no Heaven or Hell on the other side. '

ConservativeHippie,

why bother quoting Jesus. You make Him out to be a liar with your denial. Sorry I think he is a much more reliable source than you.

Runner - That's no surprise;

I didn't realise I had quoted Jesus, in fact I didn't. If you understood the deeper message he was teaching you would come to realise the Kingdom of Heaven is within (as is Hell).

As I already stated - I'm not a Christian but I do prefer a world of Love over one filled with fear, hate and revenge. Basically we are on the same side, just taking different paths toward the end.