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By the right....Quick.... march!

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Suse,

Do you believe that the ordinary law abiding citizen have a right to defend themselves against unlawful attack?
Posted by Is Mise, Sunday, 17 August 2014 10:48:42 PM
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@Suseonline, Sunday, 17 August 2014 7:47:51 PM

Where your credibility is always off to a bad start is that despite your dozens of repetitive posts over the years and various people trying to educate you on some of the basic conditions, you remain completely ignorant of the firearms regulations past and present.

You just do your 'drive-bys' and rely on your rudeness when challenged.
Posted by onthebeach, Sunday, 17 August 2014 11:10:09 PM
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The police can deal with the criminals, so we don't need rednecks for that job...
Suseonline,
Yeah ? Are you sure ? Isn't that like saying let teachers do the educating ? You yourself are living proof that that doesn't work.
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 August 2014 6:25:39 AM
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Is Mise, I'll buy into the argument, your question;
<<Do you believe that the ordinary law abiding citizen have a right to defend themselves against unlawful attack?>> There is no simplistic yes/no answer.
Obviously if someone is attacking you physically, then of course you have the right to defend yourself, physically. Many members of the community that are physically attacked are not capable of defending themselves, in any case.
If the attack is verbal then a physical response is not appropriate, neighbors shouting over the back fence about the barking dog.. The question of should ordinary citizens be armed, is a simple no! Many in society are not trained, or mentally capable to be allowed the privilege of carrying a weapon. The American experience certainly proves that. A persons state of mind at the critical time of use of a firearm is what is the problem. People are highly likely to use a firearm when in an irrational, emotional state and acting aggressively. Police Officers, even though highly trained in the use of a weapon, often suffer the same thing when actually called upon to use the weapon. If Police have a problem, how would untrained people act. What you find to, is the ordinary law abiding citizen is less likely to arm themselves compared to the "nutters", and how do you determine who is a 'OLAC', make it a question on the application form? dangerous. very dangerous.
Posted by Paul1405, Monday, 18 August 2014 6:51:22 AM
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Australian mentality as it is presently could not be trusted with having weapons let alone firearms in the home. Although some countries do permit firearms in the home, one must consider that they have a different mentality.
Australian gun owners are a different breed altogether. 99% are responsible people with a sense of respect for their firearm & for society. I believe a gun owner should be allowed to use his firearm against a violent intruder who is obvious in his intention to cause harm.
If someone is brazen enough to break into a home & threaten the occupants then he should automaticallly be deemed life-threatening & be dealt with accordingly. A moment's hesitation due to decency has claimed the lives of many decent people & in the increased expenditure of holding the assaillants. IT's time to give the decent people a chance. I would guess that most gun owners would be overpowered anyway before they manged to retrieve the weapon from a gun safe.
Posted by individual, Monday, 18 August 2014 8:46:45 AM
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...Whatever gun laws we have now, we have a less violent society in Australia, and if anything, we should be tightening the gun laws even further...

Rubbish Suze.

Firstly, guns don't kill people, people kill people and, even that's just a selected few.

As a gun owner, I accept that gun laws must be in place and, that certain people, this with history, should not have guns but, why punish the likes of me.

I have owned a gun/guns for almost 40 years and never committed an offense. Why should I be punished for the wrong doing of lunatics who, as rightly suggested, commit firearm offences whether they be licensed gun owners or not.

Then of cause you have the farmers, most of whom turn a blind eye to the laws while taking huge risks in doing so but, farmers know that a wild dog won't sit there, while you unlock your gun safe, select your rifle, insert the Bo,t, then the ammo take aim and shoot. It's a joke.
All the gun laws have done is disarmed decent law abiding citizens and made them more vulnerable to criminals.
Posted by rehctub, Monday, 18 August 2014 9:09:17 AM
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