Gotta say warmair,

You're banging your head against people who are delusional, good luck.

Bazz
Burning 1 tonne of black coal generates 29.39 gigajoules or 8.14 megawatt hours

1 tonne of black coal is equivalent to the energy obtained from burning
5.2 barrels (700 kilograms) of oil
890 cubic meters of natural gas. ( =27.8 million Btu)
4 tonnes of brown coal.

1 tonne of black coal costs $77
5.2 barrels of oil costs $520
890 cubic meters of natural costs $107
4 tonnes of brown coal costs $2 in Victoria

So the energy equivalent has no relation to price. In theory if you use less than 260 tonnes of brown coal to make 1 tonne of oil you are ahead on costs. In practice of course they are many other cost factors , but it demonstrates the point that provided we don’t care about emissions then we can easily produce all the liquid fuels we need. By the way Victoria has the largest deposits of brown coal in the world

DavidK
I do not expect to change the opinion of anyone here, but I find it entertaining to analyze what is being said on these sorts of forums. It is also much easier to learn from other people’s misunderstandings and mistakes. I have a strong interest in climate and how it works, I am too old to sit down and do a serious course on the subject but this way I am gradually improving my knowledge on the subject.

Bye the way if they abuse you on these forums it means you have won the argument.

Thanks warmair, who ever you are.

Having post-grad qualifications in a particular 'climate science' and having 30+ years research and working in the field, I am so sick and tired of "peanuts" (like OLO's 'hasbeen' who obviously doesn't have a clue what he's talking about) spout nonsense, and tell experts in the 'science' that they don't know what they're talking about.

You will find people like 'hasbeen' believe what they want to believe - regardless of the facts, regardless what the scientific evidence, method, and concomitant observations present.

Indeed, they remind me of the religious zealots at the time of the Spanish Inquisition - wanting to burn scientists at the stake.

Galileo should think himself lucky!

Learn, have fun while you can.

Well well DavidK has admitted to being one of the scammers, with a very real vested interest in keeping it going.

Picked him in one.

Just to advise you David & warmair, that warm wet feeling down your leg is what you get when you pee in each others pockets.

Perhaps you already knew, you do it so often you should understand the experience.

Hasbeen
See last line of my previous post.