Thanks Warmair for the comments.
Oh well, it doesn't matter anyway, AGW is least problem we have.
I try to avoid the discussions on AGW, but my busybodyness pulls me in sometimes.

What you have to remember Bazz is that these new ocean currents just happened to coincide with a reduction in sun activity, evidenced by the reduction in sun spots.

Amazingly they must have started previously just in time to coincide with the slow sun activity also evidenced by a reduction in sunspots known as the Maunder Minimum.

Can you guess that also just happened to lead into the little ice age.

Of course we know that temperature on earth has nothing to do with the output of the sun, people like Michael Mann have told us so, others tell us that heat MUST be hiding in the ocean, & fools like warmair believe them, because it is what they want to believe.

Hell they even tried to change the historical record to hide the little ice age, when they could not find a CO2 or sports utility vehicle signature causing such past flatirons. Fortunately too many people had it on records, & that barefaced lie failed.

Remember Bazz, if it sounds like bulldust, looks like bulldust, it probably is crap, & the greenies are full of it.

Well Hasbeen, I know about sunspots, or rather the lack of them.
My friends and myself have been complaining about lousy propergation
for some years.
We had hoped this last cycle would have been a good one.
It is confirmed looking at the IPS.

Bazz
In the 1960s I read an article in new sceintist claiming that we would run out of fossil fuels within a decade. I told my farther about it and he laughed and said they have been saying that since the 1930s and he did not believe it. I have seen articles making the same claim ever since and it just has not happened.

Yes it is true that we have made big inroads into the easaily available oil sources but the higher the price the more becomes economically available. The need for oil is based around transport fuels but that does not prevent us from using solid fuels or gas as a substitute.
The EroEI is not really all that useful if you don’t care how much fossil fuels you burn so what if need 10 tons of coal to make one ton of liquid fuels as long as you can sell the liquid fuel at a profit. To put this in perspective brown coal is a lousy fuel as it wet and has a low thermal output so it is generally only used on site to make electricity. The Victorian government charges 50 cents a tonne to the power companies.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/50m-for-brown-coal-projects-20140515-38cwl.html

The facts are we have the ability to provide liquid fuels from fossil hydrocarbons until such time as all the oil, coal, gas and unconventional fossil sources are used up. If we do that the levels of CO2 in the atmosphere will end up in the 1000s of parts per million and that we are told will be disastrous

No Warmair, the eroei does matter because the energy whether from coal
or oil or gas costs near enough the same and if you put almost as much
or even more than you get out you are going backwards very fast.
If one was a lot cheaper than the other it would be the only one used.
Once the cost of energy reaches 4% of GDP the economy goes into recession.

Sorry Hasbeen the Suns output has been in decline since about 1970, but temperatures still continued to increase. I don't have a problem with heat been hidden temporarily but I do have a problem when heat appears out of nowhere as you seem to think is possible.

http://www.wunderground.com/climate/facts/sun_is_not_to_blame.as