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Is the handing over of asylum seekers at sea to the military of Sri Lanka a criminal act?

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Poirot,

Thanks for the link:

"Mr Morrison is correct. Based on the definition set out in the people smuggling protocol, people who have come to Australia without a valid visa have illegally entered the country." That left whingers prefer PC / green washed terms is fine as long as they don't mind the rest of us calling a spade a spade not flat faced digging tool.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 12 July 2014 1:31:58 PM
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Notwithstanding, SM, that it is merely a descriptor, for...

"Irrespective of these sections, it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa."

Nevertheless Prison Ship Scotty dog-whistles the descriptor whenever the opportunity permits....knowing precisely which ilk will start barking in response.

Clever guy, our Scotty, in the realms of secretive faux military Ops and manipulative dog whistling.

That's the kind of leadership that set him down in history...not necessarily in the right annals, though.
Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 12 July 2014 2:02:48 PM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Joseph Goebbels, the Minister of Propaganda for
Nazi Germany once wrote that, "It would not
be impossible to prove with sufficient repetition
and a psychological understanding of the people
concerned that a square is in fact a circle.
What afterall are a square and a circle? They are
mere words and words can be re-molded until they
clothe ideas in disguise."

Our current government leaders are using
misinformation, half-truths, and false statements to
cement incorrect ideas about asylum seekers into
the minds of the Australian public.

If their main aim was to save boat people from
the "drownings" or from people smugglers - why would
they spend so much time and effort vilifying them?
Posted by Foxy, Saturday, 12 July 2014 2:06:24 PM
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Steele,
This has been gone over thousands of times and still you persist with incorrect information. I am sick of constantly referring posters to the DIAC website, which obviously you have not done, for the correct information.

Look it up, it is there in black and white.

In the interim, here is a letter from a senior staff member to the press council relating to the matter.

file:///C:/Users/ADMIN/Documents/Illegal%20immigrant%20-%20correct%20terminology.htm

As well, you might like to consider on what basis do our immigration officials detain those without a valid visa. If they enter legally, how come we can detain them? The fact is they are breaking our laws and that is the sole reason we detain them. We do not detain persons who enter legally.

But you and Foxy know all this and it is tiresome to have to keep repeating it. Look it up yourself
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 12 July 2014 2:20:09 PM
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Steele,
Here is another reference I just found in my files.

file:///C:/Users/ADMIN/Documents/Immigration%20Detention%20-%20Detention%20Services.htm

Do take note.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 12 July 2014 2:28:31 PM
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Poirot,
Good to see you posted something positive.

The advocates introduced the term 'asylum seekers' simply to paint the illegal entrants in a more favourable light when trying to convince the Aus public that they were poor, persecuted souls who need our pity and care. The truth is they are shonks, gate crashers and con artists who get here by corruption and bribery. They do not deserve any pity and are coached in the lies to tell our officials.

The illegals can also be termed as 'unlawful' as unlawful and illegal mean the same. My understanding is that they should not be termed as asylum seekers until such time as they actually apply for asylum.

I will continue to refer to them as illegals and trust it will not be for much longer and they will stop trying to come here completely.
Posted by Banjo, Saturday, 12 July 2014 3:12:58 PM
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