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The Forum > General Discussion > Is the handing over of asylum seekers at sea to the military of Sri Lanka a criminal act?

Is the handing over of asylum seekers at sea to the military of Sri Lanka a criminal act?

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SM,

Typos in the above:

"Yes, referring to those who come by boat as Non Illegal Maritime Arrivals appears counter-intuitive.."

Should read:

"Yes, referring to those who come by "air" as Non "Irregular" Maritime Arrivals appears counter-intuitive..."

Sheesh!
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 14 July 2014 10:29:34 AM
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Poirot,
Despite attempts by you and the ABC to spin it, our laws state that all non citizens must have a valid visa to enter Australia. To attempt to enter without a valid visa is breaking our law and thus is illegal. There may well be some definition of exactly what is 'criminal' but the absence of a valid visa is serious enough for the person to be locked up, whether or not the person subsequently applies for asylum.

Paul Keating first introduced detainment of boat arrivals so you can be assured that, over the years, it has been closely looked at by the legal eagles.

Hopefully there will no longer be attempts to come and the matter will only be a rare occurance. The foolishness and incompetence of the previous government has caused huge cost and inconvienience
Posted by Banjo, Monday, 14 July 2014 11:44:57 AM
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Dear Shadow Minister,

Not even close.

I think the wick in your old blunderbuss is rather soggy my friend.

The first of your offerings was not ever a Department of Immigration document and the second was a quote from a politician.

Care to dry things off and try again?

Come on mate I know you have it in you.
Posted by SteeleRedux, Monday, 14 July 2014 11:55:37 AM
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Banjo,

It is not a it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa.

The description of foreigners previously as illegal and currently as unlawful in the Migration Act does not mean they have broken the law."

Fullstop.

Both descriptions are merely to "define the status" of the arrivals.

And Morrison is employing "illegals"in his commentary merely to dog-whistle the likes of you.

Simples....
Posted by Poirot, Monday, 14 July 2014 12:43:58 PM
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"I think the wick in your old blunderbuss is rather soggy my friend".

Just to be pedantic, the blunderbuss doesn't use a wick.
Posted by Is Mise, Monday, 14 July 2014 12:46:01 PM
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SR

The correct website was

http://www.aic.gov.au/documents/7/F/5/%7B7F54421B-F3B9-49C5-8D82-B87F34083D3B%7Dfull_report.pdf

You said " Please show me an official government website where the department refers to those arriving by boat collectively as 'illegal immigrants'."

I have done so several times. So suck it up, you were wrong yet again.
Posted by Shadow Minister, Monday, 14 July 2014 1:23:48 PM
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