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Is the handing over of asylum seekers at sea to the military of Sri Lanka a criminal act?
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Posted by SteeleRedux, Friday, 11 July 2014 6:05:08 PM
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Well,I just sat and watched tonight's news
It was stated that India said, "it was not their problem." If the country the Tamils originally came from says, it is not their problem, then why is it ours? It would seem odd if there were 150 Australian refugees on that boat instead of the Tamils and Australia said , It it not our problem, India, you take them" India's attitude here strikes me as bizarre, and heaven forbid racist, something they are always accusing Australia of being. Posted by CHERFUL, Friday, 11 July 2014 6:39:01 PM
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Foxy,
I imagine Abbott felt so ashamed about Rudd/Gillard that he thought an apology was appropriate. After all Malaysia is a country with culture. Posted by individual, Friday, 11 July 2014 8:41:54 PM
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Steele,
<< are going to put an official definition to counter that of the Council rather than pluck one out of your arse as is normal practice from your side. Well mate the floor is yours.>> Steele we have been down this road sooooo many times before. It usually starts when you or one of your confederates comes running to us shouting: “EXTRA, EXTRA READ ALL ABOUT IT, HERE’S PROOF POSITIVE THAT BRIBING, BULLING & BARGING YOUR WAY TO OUR SHORES IS LEGAL –JUST AS LONG AS YOU MENTION THE MAGIC WORD “ASYLUM”. And the rest of us go through the process of unpicking it –and pointing out that it is yet another puff-piece from a illegal immigration support group. And then you or your confederate having had his/her backside thoroughly tanned limps off with his/her tail between his/her legs –till the next time when you try it on again. Your motive is not that you support it because it is legal – your support it because you want it to happen. The net is littered sites which provide pre-packaged excuses as to why anything the asylum scammers do is AOK. And if that wasn’t enough we have *TAX-PAYER FUNDED* groups like The Refugee Council, SBS and the ABC spruiking it at every opportunity. Posted by SPQR, Saturday, 12 July 2014 7:44:08 AM
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SR,
The definition of an illegal immigrant is: Illegal immigration refers to the migration of people across national borders, or the residence of foreign nationals in a country, in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country. Coming into the country without a valid visa by boat violates Australian immigration laws, Ipso facto the boat people are illegal immigrants. (often shortened to illegals) So until the english language is altered, the left whingers attempts to greenwash the people smugglers can be ignored. As for the definition of the "Refugee council": - Self appointed group of sanctimonious whingers funded using taxpayers' money by Labor to act as a cheer squad for Juliar's and the greens more insane policies. Posted by Shadow Minister, Saturday, 12 July 2014 7:47:11 AM
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SM,
"Coming into the country without a valid visa by boat violates Australian immigration laws, Ipso facto the boat people are illegal immigrants. (often shortened to illegals)" Bandying the word "Illegals" about like he does is merely Scotty's "official" dog whistle to all the rabid and fearful bigots in Australia....although this fact check found he was technically correct. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-06/morrison-correct-illegal-entry-people/4935372 "Until September 1994, it did refer to "illegal entrants". This reference was removed in 1992 to simplify and clarify the existing categories on immigration status. The Migration Act now says that a person who was classed as an illegal entrant before September 1994 became an unlawful non-citizen after that date. In a provision dealing with people smuggling, the Act says a non-citizen has "no lawful right to come to Australia" if that person does not hold a valid visa. Irrespective of these sections, it is not a criminal offence under the Act to arrive in Australia without a visa. The description of foreigners previously as illegal and currently as unlawful in the Migration Act does not mean they have broken the law. It is a description of their entry status and determines the way authorities process them." "Mr Morrison's office referred ABC Fact Check to the United Nations Protocol against the Smuggling of Migrants, which was signed by Australia in 2001 and ratified in 2004. The protocol defines "illegal entry" as "crossing borders without complying with the necessary requirements for legal entry into the receiving State". The protocol in itself does not make anything illegal. Criminal offences for people smuggling, modelled on those required by the protocol, are included in both the Australian Commonwealth Criminal Code and the Migration Act." I wonder where Scotty gets off running secret prison ships on the high seas? Surely says something about his efforts to pretend no-one is coming so the govt can keep their slogans running. Posted by Poirot, Saturday, 12 July 2014 8:13:16 AM
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I love it when I bring this up because you lot bleat about the Refugee Council but never offer anything up yourselves. I just know mate that you are the one who is going to change that. You are going to put an official definition to counter that of the Council rather than pluck one out of your arse as is normal practice from your side.
Well mate the floor is yours.
Dear JBowyer,
You still banging on about Muslims and head scarves? Tell me mate just how many Muslims do you think were on the latest 2 boats from Sri Lanka?
Dolt!