Jay,

We've been communicating with Ludwig for years...none of us think he's a pedophile.

I do however, think he's uncommonly hung up on Rolf's situation - and I might add - making himself look a tad ridiculous by defending him.

I mentioned in an earlier post that Ludwig appears to be taking Rolf's situation personally, because of a long held admiration for this man...and finding it difficult to digest the gravity of Harris's digression from acceptable behaviour.

He mentioned earlier in the thread that he was almost in tears at the verdict.

I think Ludwig would do well to examine his own apparent adherence to Rolf's "former public image" and allow himself to accept that Harris is profoundly flawed in this matter...irregardless of his years as family entertainer and all-round good guy.

dear robert/please know..i love michael*jackson/his music sooths me
from his earliest days..woman and men have had..and desired him/he had his\soul/spirit/driven out of him.

from his father/who expected\every gesture to be perfect
to his brothers doing as brothers do/enjoy the spoils of fame

there can~be no doubt/that many\horrid things was done/to micheal
the rich./and famouse\demand their playthings/its loose loose

so michael slept\with children/HED/LOST-HIS*OWN[inner-child]
i love him yet/the beauty\of his music makes for no regret
its said i will never falL in love again/but their wrong
y\u can be loving your hating/thats no love at all;SEE?

i dare y0u to lisen\to michaels music/and not/feel his pain
we*/all feel pain/no s0meone big wanted a media detractioIS
the system..is very good at hiding ITS SINS/+\RED~HERRINGS*

ludwig/i too\got strap-once
unjustly/that seems a big*key..[much like molestation
getting accused and hurt severly/when you done nuthin wrong for trying to speak-up/well that cuts deep/opens our eyes just like being touched up.

i know me/and\if any movie*STARharlet*TOUCHED ME UP
well wooopppeeE[i have been~that lonely]
\i met 20 year old virgins[ie they stopped loving\for 20 years
[i recall this old lady/went o the police STATION/for her rewards[it seems her mother*told her as a 12 years-old;stay a virgin till your 80/and\the police give..you two grand

thing is nuns have earned their heaven
but reject heaven\but briefly first to visit hell /;get-to release/\some pent~up heat-out/get\the kinks out-of\a cramped/up life expectation
[im told sex-is great\for period cramps]but that some 'girls begin tO MENTRAIT AT 8/they are-tmo sexualised/plus the female horemoans in our plastics drinks..and food .

how aboUT THESE/POOR CHILDREN BARELY ALIVE/consciouso
THAT BBC pervert\loved loving these dead and defective
who are we to judge the love\returned from a corpse/as cold as stone
[in budism/they say enlightenment reaches out with the thought of oneness one gets of sitting with 'the dead'..then realization/that we the dead and the living are one/complete/energy circular event/of energy changing STATE/yet what is iT THAT makes THESE shaped scratchings have form/in\min/that inform the mind/via the seeing linkages of our minds eye;]

Personally, I find the people who had to sit in Southwark Crown Court for six weeks, who heard the evidence first-hand and passed their judgement, far more convincing than someone 11,000 miles away, reading a couple of newspaper articles, and then pontificating on what is right and what is wrong.

But hey, who am I to make such a wild call.

Dear Pericles,

Are we allowed to pontificate on this one?

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/australiaandthepacific/australia/10958728/Australian-judge-says-incest-may-no-longer-be-a-taboo.html

To All,

I am totally confident that the whole legal process with Harris has been followed to the letter of the law in Britain. The sentence applied has been appropriate, given the nature of the crime and believe the sentencing judge has acted fairly towards Harris giving him 5 years and 9 months.
Poirot, I too have been and still are an admirer of Harris's music, artwork etc, but in no way does that lessen his crime. If Fred Harris the house painter, and part time bath time crooner had done exactly the same as the more famous Rolf Harris, I would now expect Fred would be doing 5 years and 9 months in a cell next door to the more famous Rolf.

<<A judge (Garry Neilson) in Australia has been criticised after saying incest may no longer be a taboo and that the community may now accept consensual sex between adult siblings.>>

SteeleRedux, I am opposed to incest if for no other reason it is genetically dangerous. Just take one look at the British Royal Family! I rest my case.